Creating Wealth Real Estate Investing with Jason Hartman (general)

Today's Flash Back Friday comes from episode 617, originally published on January 6, 2016.

Technology has changed the real estate investor’s ability to access additional markets.

Technological changes may give real estate investors better tools to access previously unavailable markets, but no amount of technology will ever replace a human’s need for shelter. As long as investors keep their eyes looking forward to the future and stay on top of the increasing number of research tools available they will successfully build a diverse, long-term wealth strategy based upon single family home investment properties.

Jason and the Real Estate Guys take a break from their real estate conference speaking engagements to discuss predictions for the future of the real estate investment market, the influx of tenants looking for rentals and how technology is changing investors ability to see beyond their own backyard and experience the benefit of geo-arbitration.

Meet the Masters is this weekend & there are still spaces available for our Venture Alliance trip in beautiful Dubai.

Key Takeaways:

Jason’s Editorial:

[1:29] Our archives are split because of limitations in iTunes

[6:19] Science has been and will be wrong

[12:00] Jason predicted the Obamacare disaster

[14:12] The Big Short movie – do not miss it

[15:25] Exercise prevents, treats or cure basically everything

[19:58] Casey Meyeres CPA will be speaking about taxation with regards to real estate

Robert Helms & Russ Gray Guest Interview:

[23:43] Real Estate investors have more tenants than ever before

[26:31] Single family housing will always be a need

[30:16] You can’t keep the U.S.A. down for long

[33:18] You must change based on what the market gives you

[35:01] Houses will be built, no matter what technology is used

[37:00] If big money comes in it will push prices up

[41:27] Don’t get stuck investing in your backyard

[43:19] Owning single family homes in 3-5 markets is a good diversification strategy

[44:07] Contact the Real Estate Guys


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Category:general -- posted at: 9:27pm EDT

This all Jason Hartman episode of the Creating Wealth show dives into a number of different topics. Jason discusses his favorite index when evaluating real estate trends, the dangers of asset inflation, unintended consequences of the GOP Tax Reform bill, the impact of mortgage rate increases, and more of the latest news in the world today.

Key Takeaways:

[2:22] The problem with foreseeing what will cause the next market crash

[4:59] The index that Jason would look at it if he had to pick just one

[12:29] Asset inflation in the US is alive and well

[15:50] One of the biggest destroyers of wealth: a wave of divorces expected this year

[21:54] Don't forget to download your photo with Ron Paul from Meet the Masters (and see all the other pictures from the event) at

[24:35] Every 1% of interest rate equates to about 10% of sales price

[27:37] It's really hard to lose with the buy & hold real estate strategy

[32:20] Taylor Swift is being sued for over $1 million by a real estate broker


Attend the JHU Live Event in San Jose!

Work with Jason (or ask him a question)!

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Jason Hartman kicks off the episode breaking down the OTHER 3 market types. No, he's not talking linear/cyclical/hybrid, today he's talking buyer/seller/broker markets.

Then Jason talks with Mike Moyer, creator of Slicing Pie, about how to partner with people on startups and real estate investing in a way that fairly incorporates everything people bring to the table. The two discuss the need to factor in work, cash, ideas, goods, etc when valuing contributions, as well as the multipliers for each faction depending on their scarcity.

Key Takeaways:

Jason Intro:

[5:57] Real estate is a pretty easy thing to partner on, as long as you keep it arms length

[7:07] Welcome to the newest Venture Alliance members!

[9:07] The 3 basic types of markets (that aren't linear/cyclical/hybrid!!!), and how you figure out which one you're in

[13:12] Jason likes the broker's market, obviously, but is still pretty bullish on the real estate market

Mike Moyer Interview:

[18:38] You have to go into a startup with the knowledge that you can lose all of your money

[19:39] How would you use Slicing Pie in a real estate deal?

[23:47] Why there's a difference between cash & non-cash contributions when you're slicing

[26:42] The reason there are multipliers in slices is so that there are consequences if someone leaves the pie

[30:05] Why time based vesting isn't the way to go

[32:34] What is Mike's definition of a startup?

[37:50] What are all the ways you can get a slice of pie in a company?

[41:59] How do you get started slicing pie?


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Category:general -- posted at: 9:03pm EDT

Today's Flash Back Friday comes from Episode 259, published in May 2012.

Jason Hartman and returning guest, Dan Amerman discuss federal policies and interest rates, which hurts the savers and fixed income folks. The artificially low interest rates are not working and create higher prices through inflation.

They also discuss inflation rates, in which the federal numbers are glossed over and do not match true inflation as experienced by the American citizens through food, fuel, and utilities. Manufacturers hide inflation by making products smaller.

Jason and Dan then talk about rental housing and how to arbitrage the inflation. Dan explains how to turn the fed policies around to our advantage. It starts with understanding cash flow investing and setting your safety margin. When looking at cash flows, rather than being all about the price, it’s more about the interest rate when it comes to a mortgage. In the process of creating non-free-market interest rates for banks and for the federal government, the federal government has accidentally made available subsidized mortgage rates that are available if you can get the lending.

It goes directly to your bottom line as the investor, resulting in much higher cash flows than you would see in a free market.

Direct download: CW_953_FBF_Dan_Amerman.mp3
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Jason Hartman, his mom Joyce, and Drew finish up their long talk about property management practices. This time Drew throws some questions toward Joyce about how to walk the line with a tenant while still keeping a good personal relationship with them, tenant retention, and Jason's theory on the pinball effect that can happen when you own enough places in one market.

Key Takeaways:

Jason Intro:

[2:01] Occassionally you may have difficulty with insurance when you self-manage

[2:56] The riskiest part of self-managing is the tenant turn

[6:34] Join Jason on a trip to Sweden or come to San Jose for the next JHU event

Joyce & Drew Interview:

[9:34] One of the nice things about not being near your investment properties is that you CAN'T go over and meet anybody

[11:56] How to retain tenants, and how to get rid of deadbeats

[14:16] Once you've formed a relationship with a tenant as a self-manager, is it awkward to raise the rent on them or enforce late fees, etc?

[18:38] When do you build the expectation of rent increases into the relationship?

[25:39] Why the hybrid management is the best system, and what to expect from your realtor helping you

[28:15] Do self-management styles change based on the type of neighborhood your property is in?

[31:46] Jason's pinball effect when you have enough properties in one market


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Category:general -- posted at: 5:28pm EDT

It's time for Jason Hartman to have a good, old fashioned discussion on property management. This time, however, there are THREE sides at the table.

In one corner is Jason's mom, Joyce, who is an EXTREME do-it-herself self-manager. In another corner is Drew, who has always been with a property management company and isn't ready to step into the self-management world. And in the final corner is Jason, with his method of a hybrid model.

Listen in as these three discuss concerns, strategies, and tips for property management, no matter which road you decide to go down.

Key Takeaways:

[2:06] Photos from Meet the Masters are up, don't forget to download yours! Join Jason for a bucket list trip to the Icehotel - Sweden in April and don't forget to register for the Jason Hartman University event in San Jose.

[7:51] The hardest part of Jason's business is property management

"Sometimes it's better to delegate, I admit, but sometimes it's better to just do things yourself"

[10:16] Drew's properties in Indianapolis were A builds, but after the Great Recession they're in C+ neighborhoods now

[13:05] Jason's hybrid self-management practice

[17:00] Where Joyce gets access to running credit reports and everything she needs to do to screen tenants

"The longer you have that tenant, the less hassle you have with that tenant"

[21:58] The most important thing you need to communicate to your tenant about rent

[27:52] Property managers have inherent conflicts of interest

[29:48] How Joyce gets her property ready for the next tenant

[32:26] Questioning pricing can frequently lead to dramatic reductions in price

"Don't be afraid to make deals with your tenants, a lot of times they want to improve the property"


Direct download: CW_951_Joyce_Drew.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 5:04pm EDT

Jason Hartman kicks off the episode discussing some self-management tips and what's going on with the new Fed chair.

Then, in his 10th episode interview, Jason talks with serial entrepreneur Peter Sage, author of 5 Keys to Master Your Life, about his recent 6 month stay in jail and how he was able to use that as a teaching (and learning) experience for himself, the inmates, and his students.

The two touch on the importance of identity, the need for ego strength & ego drive, what drives people, and more.

Key Takeaways:

Jason Intro:

[1:44] Remember, self-management doesn't have to be forever. Transferring to a property manager, if needed, takes no time

[2:39] Meet the new Fed chair, same as the old?

Peter Sage Interview:

[6:53] Peter's latest "adventure" that landed him in jail

[11:19] Identity plays a huge part in how you deal with life

[17:10] Peter's idea of a "contrast frame"

[19:27] Why do people give up at the first sign of adversity? The difference between ego strength & ego drive

[21:37] Most people are driven by G.O.O.P.

[26:01] We need to learn how to love more


Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl

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Category:general -- posted at: 10:07pm EDT

Today's Flash Back Friday comes from Episode 634, from February 2016.

Investing in income properties or single family homes is the most historically proven asset class.

We start out with the Venture Alliance Group in Dubai and later Naresh asks Jason investment related frequently asked questions about commercial and residential real estate properties, about single family homes, how the need for housing is never outsourced to another country and how the oil surplus is affecting US oil towns. Real estate investment income property is the most historically proven asset class. Real estate properties should be looked at in a market by market basis and when looking for you first or next creative deal make certain you can trust the person you are dealing with. When choosing a partner make sure they have tenure in real estate investing. They should already have a comprehensive network of investors and local market specialists in place before you trust them with your money.

Key Takeaways:

Dubai Intro:

[1:44] Gary Pinkerton joins us in Dubai

[3:49] Get out of the stock market and into cashflow investing

[7:03] You want those around you to inspire you and make you accountable

[8:20] The reluctant investors lament & to stay focused on market rent

Investor Question’s with Naresh:

[11:51] Is renting a waste of money?

[21:43 Defining commercial and residential property

[24:44] Large investors need to invest their money into something

[28:18] All of Naresh’s businesses have parts which are outsourced overseas

[30:54] Getting ripped off when trying to buy properties and creative opportunities

[32:39] Is deflation a huge threat to the United States?

[37:14] Real estate income property should be looked at on a local market basis

[38:00] How will “oil exploration” cities deal with the current oil surplus

[40:39] The problems in the energy corridor of Houston


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If you have a lot of capital to invest you may get lower return on your investment.

Depreciation tax benefits are 25% better on residential property than commercial property.

Stay away from investing in one horse towns. If the city isn’t diversified in business one blow could be its final one.

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Category:general -- posted at: 9:05am EDT

Jason Hartman finishes up his conversation about asset protection with Garrett Sutton. The two delve into the external threats to your portfolios this time, looking at how to properly protect your properties if lawsuits come toward you.

Garrett also explains when you would want to take an LLC over a corporation, what states are best for protecting you, what actions are being taken to weaken LLCs across the nation, and why doing more than the law stipulates can be a very good, very easy thing.

Key Takeaways:

Jason Intro:

[2:25] Photos from Meet the Masters are up at

[3:15] Join the Icehotel trip at

[5:03] The next Jason Hartman University event is in San Jose, go to

Garrett Sutton Interview:

[7:18] Two areas where Jason sees real estate creating liabilities for the owner: fair housing and safety

[11:34] The external threat is the biggest threat for your assets

[13:34] Breaking down Slide #6

[17:41] What you need when you domesticate a judgement

[19:49] It's a good idea to have yearly meetings for your LLC even if your state doesn't require it

[22:00] States that have good asset protection for LLCs and corporations

[24:08] Why an LLC over a Corporation

[27:46] Some states are not providing asset protection for single member LLCs

[31:46] Garrett's $100 off deal for Jason's listeners


Get Garrett Sutton’s Slides here

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Category:general -- posted at: 4:49pm EDT

Jason Hartman wanted to make sure that the practice of asset protection is understood by every investor, because it can make or break your portfolio if done wrong.

As such, he invited Rich Dad Advisor Garrett Sutton back on the show for a long, in-depth interview. We'll finish it up tomorrow with the second half, but today the two discuss the inside/outside attack on LLCs, discuss which states have weak and strong LLC protections, and how to protect your properties properly.

Key Takeaways:

[4:13] The impact of controlling the money

[7:45] How music has impacted societies around the world

[10:30] Want to go to the Icehotel in Sweden with Jason?

[12:58] The inside attack versus the outside attack

[16:41] California has the weakest asset protection laws in the union

[18:47] Why Wyoming LLCs can protect your other LLCs better than any other state

[23:21] If you have your state LLC inside a Wyoming LLC domesticated in your state, which state rules apply?

[25:31] Why is it called an "Armor 8" strategy and when is it a good choice?

[30:24] How the Wyoming LLC provided a win for a car wreck causer


Get Garrett Sutton's Slides here

Direct download: CW_947_Garrett_Sutton1.mp3
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