Creating Wealth Real Estate Investing with Jason Hartman

Jason Hartman talks with Alex about the most landlord friendly areas to invest, specific properties an excellent cash flow market with the following highlights:


- #1 Place to Live in the United States (Cities under 1,000,000 in population), Kiplinger Magazine July 2013


- Top Ten Smaller Markets in the South for Foreign Investment, Southern Business Development

- No Real Estate Boom or Bust, thus earned recognition of 10 strongest Real Estate Market in 2009,

- 2nd Most Diverse Economy, Moody’s Investors Service

- 2nd Cleanest City in the U.S., Forbes Magazine, 2011

- 22nd out of 361 metropolitan areas as best places for business, Forbes magazine, 2005

- 7th best metropolitan economy in the United States, Brookings Institution, 2009 

Little Rock Industry and Business - Major employers :

  • State Government 
  • 2 Major Universities 
  • Twenty-eight (28) Fortune 500 companies 
  • Little Rock Air Force Base 
  • Healthcare (Very large job base from hospitals, insurance and manufacturing ) 
  • Dassault Falcon Jet Corp 
  • Verizon 
  • Caterpillar 
  • IT company Acxiom 
  • Windstream 
  • Stephens Inc (Largest Investment Bank not located in NY) 
  • L’Oreal , LM Wind Power (North America), Dillard’s 



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William D. Cohan is a columnist for Bloomberg View and Vanity Fair and author of the new book, "The Price of Silence: The Duke Lacrosse Scandal, the Power of the Elite, and the Corruption of Our Great Universities." He previously authored, "The Last Tycoons: The Secret History of Lazard Frères & Co." and "House of Cards: A Tale of Hubris and Wretched Excess on Wall Street."


Cohan characterizes the state of the American university system and talks about the elitist bad-boy attitude that plagues many campuses across the nation. So many people who fit the stereotype he describes end up on Wall Street. 


William D. Cohan is the New York Times bestselling author of three non-fiction narratives about Wall Street: Money and Power: How Goldman Sachs Came to Rule the World; House of Cards: A Tale of Hubris and Wretched Excess on Wall Street; and The Last Tycoons: The Secret History of Lazard Freres & Co., which won the 2007 FT/Goldman Sachs Business Book of the Year Award. He is a contributing editor at Vanity Fair and writes a weekly column for Bloomberg View.  


Mr. Cohan also writes for the Financial Times, Bloomberg Business Week, The Atlantic, Art News, the Irish Times, the Washington Post and the New York Times Magazine. He appears regularly on MSNBC, Bloomberg TV, CNN, Current TV, and the BBC. He has also been a guest on the Charlie Rose Show and the News Hour.  


Over the course of 17 years Mr. Cohan was a senior Wall Street Mergers & Acquisitions investment banker at Lazard Freres & Co., Merrill Lynch and JPMorgan Chase. He is a graduate of Duke University, Columbia University School of Journalism, and the Columbia Graduate School of Business.


Read William D. Cohan's work on Bloomberg View at


Visit his work on Vanity Fair at


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Douglas J. Utberg - Biograhy


My professional life started when I was delivering newspapers at 15 years of age, progressed through multiple jobs paying near minimum wage.   This experience taught me the value of gaining a strong financial education to ensure that I would be able to lift myself up to higher opportunities in the future.


Upon completing my first year of college, I enlisted in the US Marine Corps Reserve.  The experience of training in the Marines taught me the importance of a strong work ethic, and the ability to adapt and improvise during difficult situations.  During my six years of service in the Marine Corps Reserve, I eventually earned the rank of Sergeant, and was assigned responsibility for a squad of fellow Marines.  This taught me the importance of placing the team’s needs before your own when in a position of responsibility.


Later on, I graduated from Portland State University, earning a bachelor of science in Finance.  Immediately afterward, I embarked on a brief career in the financial services industry, selling insurance products and mutual funds.  During this experience, I discovered the extent to which the financial industry is driven by a desire for management fees and commissions.  This experience inspired me to seek out both a different career path and to develop a way for people to learn the skills necessary for managing their own finances and investments so that they can escape the fees and commissions of the financial services industry.


It is at this point when I began my career at Intel Corporation, during which I was able to earn my MBA from George Fox University.  While working at Intel, I was fortunate enough to gain a broad array of experience ranging between manufacturing, cost, inventory, software business analysis, open source business analysis, microprocessor pricing, long range planning, compute continuum, and leading the P&L team in building and implementing a new forecasting system.  Each assignment during my career at Intel provided a unique opportunity to learn and develop.


In addition to my career working for an employer, I have also engaged in a broad variety of business and investing activities, ranging from the purchase and management of single plus multi-family investment real estate to stock market investing to building web-based businesses.  My investment and business philosophy are both the same, with each centered around fundamentals and value.  My personal and professional studies have repeatedly found that speculation is not a formula for consistent long-term success.


My experience has shown that the best way to succeed in both our career and our investments is to seek value in everything that you do.


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Joel Naroff is the Founder, President & Chief Economist with Naroff Economic Advisors and a member of the Newsmax Financial Braintrust Alliance. He's also the author of, "Big Picture Economics: How to Navigate the New Global Economy."


Naroff gives his take on the economic recovery and when he expects inflation to hit, if at all. He also discusses the effects tax cuts have on the economy. 


Naroff then talks about international economic hotspots and where people should produce and sell in our global economy. He thinks certain international events can ripple through the economy and ultimately affect workers in the Midwest. 


Joel L. Naroff is the president and founder of Naroff Economic Advisors, a strategic economic consulting firm. He advises companies across the country on the risks and opportunities that economic developments may have on the organization’s operating environment.  


A nationally recognized economic forecasting expert, Joel has received numerous honors. In 2011, he received the National Association for Business Economics Outlook Award as the top economic forecaster. NABE is the premier professional association for business economists. He also received the award in 2007. In 2008, he was awarded the Lawrence Klein Award for Blue Chip forecasting excellence. This is one of the oldest and most prestigious forecasting honors. Joel was the Bloomberg Business News top economic forecaster in 2008. In 2006, he was MSNBC’s top forecaster.  


Joel received his bachelor degrees in economics and chemistry from the Stony Brook University and his Ph.D. in economics from Brown University. He is a member of the Board of Directors of the Economy League of Greater Philadelphia, teaches at the Central Atlantic Advanced School of Banking, is a past chairman of the American Bankers Association’s Economic Advisory Committee and is a past president of the Philadelphia Council of Business Economists. 


Find out more about Joel Naroff's research by visiting

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CW 391: Warren Buffet & Berkshire Hathaway’s Success with Vitaliy Katsenelson of Investment Management Associates

Vitaliy Katsenelson is the Chief Investment Officer at Investment Management Associates. He gives a glimpse at what has made Warren Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway so successful. 


Buffett has always voted yes to the investments he's heavily invested in, even when disagreeing, which is a topic of much consternation to Katsenelson. He thinks Buffett mishandled Coke's latest compensation plan. 


Katsenelson then discusses ways investors can take a long-term view in their investing. 


Vitaliy Katsenelson is Chief Investment Officer at Investment Management Associates. While his primary focus is on discovering under-valued companies for his clients, he is also known for his uncommon common sense, which he has regularly expressed in articles in the Financial Times, Barron's, Bloomberg Businessweek, the Christian Science Monitor, Institutional Investor, and the New York Post, among other outlets. He speaks frequently to investment groups around the world, and was most recently profiled in Barron's in September 2009. Previously, he was an adjunct faculty member at the University of Colorado Graduate School of Business, and he is also the author of Active Value Investing.


Visit Vitaliy's Katsenelson's blog at


Find out more about Investment Management Associates at

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CW 390: Taking Calculated Risks with Eve Wright VP of The Miami Heat NBA Team & Author of ‘ Living Life at the Speed of Passion’

Eve Wright is the Vice President and Associate General Counsel for The HEAT Group (Miami Heat basketball team). She is the author of, "LIFE AT THE SPEED OF PASSION: Create a Life of Intention, Purpose, and Integrity."


Wright joins the show to discuss how people can cut the emotional “fat” from their lives and refine themselves everyday. She also explains what it really means to be happy. 


Wright then talks about how people can take calculated risks and re-learn risk-taking to achieve ROI. She thinks everyone can overcome their fears of failure.


Find out more about Eve Wright at


Find out more about the Miami Heat at


In her position, Wright advises the HEAT on a wide variety of legal issues pertaining to marketing and promotions, concerts and events, corporate sales, merchandising initiatives and player-related matters.  


Prior to joining the HEAT, Wright served as the Senior Director of Business and Legal Affairs for the Ladies Professional Golf Association (LPGA) where she helped to develop sports marketing opportunities for corporate sponsors, managed the LPGA's international trademark portfolio and retail licensing business as well as advised the Association on all legal matters.  


Prior to her tenure with the LPGA, the former associate in the Minneapolis, Minnesota office of Fredrikson & Byron, P.A. worked in the E-Business and Corporate Transactions groups.  


An avid supporter of community development initiatives, Ms. Wright has served in various capacities on the boards of regional civic organizations. In addition to civic organizations, she is currently a member of the ACC professional organization as well as serves on the Board of Directors for BESLA and Advisory Board for the Corporate Counsel Women of Color.  


Ms. Wright is a graduate of DePauw University, where she received a Bachelor of Arts in Economics and International Business. She earned her Doctor of Jurisprudence from Indiana University School of Law and participated in the Consortium Program at Howard University School of Law. She and her husband, Ken, live in Bay Harbor Island. 


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CW 389: Evaluating Cash Flow Rental Properties in Birmingham Alabama, Cleveland Ohio & Dallas Texas with Jason’s Mom


Join Jason Hartman and his mom on this episode of The Creating Wealth Show as they discuss their long road trip through several markets including Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus, Nashville, Birmingham and Dallas. You’ll learn about the “minimalist management” philosophy in creating bulletproof rental properties that require very little maintenance and a good overview of several markets.


Also, a big thank you to all of the doctors in the audience who provided advice and support relating to my mothers carotid artery surgery. She’s doing well in the Cleveland Clinic provided a top-notch medical experience.


Visit to view properties in these markets and to register for our Little Rock Property Tour and Creating Wealth Bootcamp in late September. Happy investing!


Key Takeaways:

·      (1:40) Brief update about Jason’s Mom’s post-surgery health & the Cleveland Clinic

·      (5:54) How to handle late rent for long distance self-managed properties

·      (11:55) How to handle long-distance evictions without a property manager using an eviction service

·      (14:49) A special message from Bill Clinton

·      (18:28) Pleasantly surprised by downtown Cleveland

·      (21:23) Moving on to Birmingham and minimalist management styles

·      (26:44) Coming up in mid-late September: Little Rock Creating Wealth Seminar and Property Tour



Audio Transcription:

ANNOUNCER: Welcome to Creating Wealth with Jason Hartman!  During this program Jason is going to tell you some really exciting things that you probably haven’t thought of before, and a new slant on investing: fresh new approaches to America’s best investment that will enable you to create more wealth and happiness than you ever thought possible.  Jason is a genuine, self-made multi-millionaire who not only talks the talk, but walks the walk.  He’s been a successful investor for 20 years and currently owns properties in 11 states and 17 cities.  This program will help you follow in Jason’s footsteps on the road to financial freedom.  You really can do it!  And now, here’s your host, Jason Hartman, with the complete solution for real estate investors.


JASON HARTMAN: Welcome to the Creating Wealth Show!  This is your host Jason Hartman, and this is episode #389!  Thanks so much for joining me today.  I kind of feel like I haven’t been with you in a while!  At least not directly.  In that we’ve played a lot of interviews with guests and so forth, but not that many where I’ve just kind of been talking to you.  So I’m really glad to just be talking to you today, and going over a bunch of issues.  And I’m actually on the way to the airport.  I’m here in the south, in beautiful Gulf Shores, Alabama, and Mom is with me, she’s taking me to the airport.  The first thing I wanted to say is, since I announced my mom’s medical condition on the show, several weeks back, thank you so much to all of you.  I guess we’ve got a lot of doctors in the audience, so we really appreciate the calls, and the emails, and the advice we got from you, so thank you very much for that, and I’ll give you a little update into what has happened since then.  Here’s mom.  Mom, say hello!


Surgery in Cleveland


MOM: Hi, everyone.  I just want to say thank you also, for all of the concern that Jason’s audience seem to show about my carotid artery operation, and just want to let you all know that everything turned out terrifically well at the Cleveland Clinic.  That is just a classy place to go, if you have anything wrong.


JASON HARTMAN: Good stuff.  I would totally agree; the Cleveland Clinic is an incredible operation.  I was very impressed.  So, with all of that, real estate is kind of in our DNA.  What happened is, I actually flew to Cleveland to meet my mom there, and she drove up there, and, well, I was in Cleveland, we were there for about a week with her recovery and so forth from the surgery, that went very well, as you just heard, and I met with our Cleveland local market specialist, who actually is one that we’ve been working with for quite a while in another market.  He formed an alliance with a group up in Cleveland, and I met with him, and I looked at their properties, and I gotta say, I did not think I would like Cleveland very much.  We have shied away from a lot of the previously blighted markets. 


We’re still shying away from the real blighted ones like Detroit.  But, you know, I was pleasantly impressed with Cleveland.  I really was.  It was amazing.  Now, I was impressed with all of the extensive downtown redevelopment projects; I was impressed with the properties, and the cash flow on those properties; I was impressed with the rehab.  Again, we’re working in Cleveland, with the same provider we’ve been working with for many, many years in another market.  So, you’ll hear more about that, and you’ll hear more about his partner in the Cleveland market that’s doing the direct business.  More on that to come.  I did shoot some video, and I’ll share that with you on our YouTube channel, and maybe we’ll even play the audio track from some of that video.  We might even do that on this podcast, time permitting, because one of those audio tracks is really just a conversation, while the other videos are looking at properties, and so the visual helps.  But for the conversation, we can probably just play the audio part of that video on the podcast here today.  And then, mom and I, after looking at Cleveland—oh, mom, you gotta share the funniest thing.  And I was very concerned about you during the surgery, as I was pacing around the waiting room and so forth there at the Cleveland Clinic.  But I knew you were okay when you were in the intensive care unit and you demanded your iPhone, and what were you doing on your iPhone?  I actually took a funny picture of you, why don’t you talk about that?


MOM: Well, I had the operation the 2nd or 3rd day of the month—


JASON HARTMAN: It was the 2nd, it was July 2nd.


MOM: Okay, it was July 2nd.  Anyway, the rents are supposed to be in my bank account on the first day of the month.  So, I was simply calling those that I didn’t think had paid yet, that weren’t registered in my bank to pay their rent, immediately.


JASON HARTMAN: I know my mom’s been on a few shows before, everybody, and you’ve heard her talk before.  She’s the—I call it an extreme do-it-yourselfer.  She’s not a do-it-yourselfer; she’s an extreme do-it-yourselfer.  That mansion in which you live, you probably would have built it yourself if you could have.


MOM: I could have gotten rid of all of the bad health.


JASON HARTMAN: Yeah.  I tell you, building a house is a nightmare project.  So I would never recommend that to anybody.  But you know, that was your childhood dream ever since you saw Gone With The Wind as a little girl.  But anyway, what you do, that I think is kind of interesting—number one, you self-manage all your properties.  You don’t use managers.  And you self-manage from a long distance.  You have properties as far away as about 2,000 miles or so, and then you have closer properties that are within, I don’t know, maybe 60, 80 miles.  Biloxi, Gulfport, that’s where you’ve got one.  You’ve got another one in Tuscaloosa I think, right?


MOM: Yes, uh huh.  Those are the closest.


JASON HARTMAN: Do you have anything in Mobile, Alabama?


MOM: No, uh uh.


Dealing with Late Rent


JASON HARTMAN: So, those rental properties, what you do that’s interesting, is you have all your tenants deposit the rent into your bank account.  So, you bank with a big national bank, and they’re responsible for going to the bank and depositing the money into your account on the first.  And I remember when you were in the intensive care unit, and this was literally, I mean—look, folks.  I tried to stop her.  I tried to take the phone away.  She wouldn’t have it.  Just, you have to know my mom to understand that.  You’re not gonna stop her from doing anything.  And so, you had a sheet of paper there, and you were looking at the deposits, and you had a pencil, and you were writing down on a sheet of paper which ones had deposited, and you discovered that of all your rental properties, four people had not made their deposit, and you were calling them on your iPhone from the ICU, where they strictly say that you are not allowed to have phones in there.


MOM: Well, actually, it was only three people.  The bank had kind of made a mistake on one of the tenant’s deposits; I couldn’t quite recognize it, but they corrected that the next day, and the tenant told me that they had definitely deposited, and they were telling the exact truth.  So it was only three people that hadn’t deposited immediately.


JASON HARTMAN: What strikes me as interesting—and again, if you use property managers, you don’t have this opportunity—but I remember listening to you talk to your tenants on the phone, and what strikes me as interesting is how I think that because you have this kind of a personal relationship with them—of course it’s a business relationship, you’re not friendly with them, so to speak.  You’re not getting too close to them, in other words.  But because they know you, and they view you as an actual person, rather than some sort of nameless, faceless institution, I feel that you exert some more pressure over them to get them to pay, and pay quickly.  Do you agree, or have anything to say about that?


MOM: I just make it very clear that I cannot tolerate late rent payments when they sign that lease.  And they know that I expect and demand that my rent be paid the first day of the month.


JASON HARTMAN: So, tell the listeners kind of how you handle that, and what you say to people, and things like that.  And by the way, folks, we’re gonna cover a lot of other subjects in this show, in this episode, so I’m just going over a few things here that struck me as kind of funny with mom.  But, tell the listeners how you handle that, what you say to them.


MOM: Well, I simply call them and say, hi whoever it is on the other end of the line.  I don’t see your rent in my bank deposit yet, and is there a problem, or did you already put it in, or what is going on?  And they tell me what has happened.  And I say, look, you know there’s a $60 late fee if you don’t have the rent in there the first day.  I really do not want your $60.  I simply want your rent on time.  When will the rent be put in the bank?  And they tell me.  And if it isn’t in there on that first day of the month, I say, well, be sure to put in the $60.


JASON HARTMAN: For the late fee.  Okay.  And do they usually do that?  Do they cooperate, and put it in?


MOM: Yes, most of them all do that.  There is one tenant that does not do that, and all of those $60 late fees will simply be deducted out of their security deposit when they leave.


JASON HARTMAN: Okay.  So, now, you did have a problem, though, that was kind of stressing you out on one of your properties.  And this is a long distance property again; it’s about 2000 miles away from you, so, it’s far away, and you actually called up a real estate agent, I think you were called a Century 21 office, and kind of describe for the listeners that whole story.  And that happened this month.  You know, these are unusual, but it happened to happen this month, you happened to be in the intensive care unit at the Cleveland Clinic, which I think is ridiculous that you were doing this, but, I don’t know.  Maybe that’s what keeps you alive, is you have a purpose, you know?  You knew you had to recover from surgery, and recover quickly, because you had to collect your rent.  So, it’s kind of like Viktor Frankl’s Man’s Search For Meaning.  Another version of it.  The modern version.


MOM: Well, what happened is that this tenant is now—we’re in the eviction process.  And the tenant had moved in a girlfriend, and he simply didn’t pay.  So, I called a local real estate agent, and I told them the situation, and I asked them to, would they please go over there and just check and see if the place looked like it had been abandoned?  If tenants were still living in there, or what.  Anyway, the gentleman, very nicely did go over there, and—


JASON HARTMAN: The realtor.


MOM: The realtor.  And as he was there, someone was coming out of the door.  And it happened to be the girlfriend.  And I said, please let me speak with her.  And so, she just took his phone, and took it in the house; the poor real estate guy lost his phone.  He was ready to call the police to get the phone back.  She carried out a ten-minute conversation with me about when they were going to pay rent, and all of the details.  I said, please, now give that man back his phone.  I talked to the realtor—


JASON HARTMAN: This is hilarious.  It’s like a reality show, you know?


MOM: I talked to the realtor, a few hours later I called him, and said, I wanted his address, I wanted to send him a check for his work in helping me out.  And he refused the check, and he says, that’s just my job, to give really good service to people.  So I thought, that’s a great guy.  And I will certainly go back to him when I need to.


JASON HARTMAN: Yeah.  So, the realtors—you know, there’s—what you’ve gotta realize, if you want to self-manage your properties, and if you want to be an extreme do-it-yourselfer like my mother—I mean, the vast majority of my clients, you know, and I’m talking vast, vast majority.  Maybe 95% of our clients, use property managers.  And you know, I do it both ways myself.  Some of my properties I self-manage, and as I’ve said to you on many episodes for a long time now, I was happily, pleasantly surprised that I could do this from a long distance.  I never thought that was achievable.  And for our members, I taught a whole webinar on that topic, and I’ve talked about it on the podcast as well, on prior episodes, about long distance self-management of your properties.  So, there are advantages and disadvantages to each.  What you’re hearing now is from an extreme do-it-yourselfer.  So, good.  Anything else on that?


MOM: No, other than the fact that I have now done all of the eviction preparation work.


Do-It-Yourself Eviction


JASON HARTMAN: So, how do you handle a long distance eviction like that?  Without a property manager?  Tell us what you do.  You go online, you find an eviction service, etcetera—tell us what that’s about, and how it works, and how much it costs.


MOM: Well, first off, I do file a three-day notice to pay rent or quit.  Because I know all of the details.  And I then hire a process server, which costs anywhere from $30 to $50 or $60 to get the thing served.  Then you send the proof of service to the attorney.  And you can go online and just Google eviction services.  You always want to get a firm that specializes in evictions.  Don’t get a firm that does every other kind of legal work.  Just evictions only.


JASON HARTMAN: Yeah.  So, there are lots of law firms out there.  They are technically law firms, that offer eviction services, that are like an assembly line.  They’re a mill, and they just process evictions, and deal with tenant issues, like crazy.  And one of the things I say when I talk about self-management, is that sometimes, your property managers will actually do this process themselves.  You know, they will go, and they will post a three-day notice right on the door.  Sometimes they nail it right to the door.  And it’s kind of embarrassing for the neighbors to see that.  And they will actually do all of this, and they will handle the eviction, they will show up in court, they will take it all the way through getting your judgment against the tenant, which you can later collect on.  Or, at least, try to collect. 


And I’ve talked a lot about that.  A lot of those judgments are a lot more collectible than people think.  In fact, when you were online today, I saw on your computer screen, mom, when you were online looking at eviction services, I saw that there was like a banner add there on that website that said, we want your old judgments.  And so, a lot of these services, and a lot of other people out there, will actually buy these judgments from you.  Now of course they’re gonna buy them at a discount, so if you have a tenant who owes back rent, or has damaged the property, and you’ve got a judgment against them for, say, $2000—I’ve never sold off a judgment like this, but I would assume that these services will buy the judgment from you, and do all the collection themselves for maybe 50, 60 cents on the dollar, depending on how big it is, how collectible it is, etcetera, etcetera.  But you can just sit there with a judgment and wait, and collect eventually too, and those judgments do accumulate interest.  So, this can actually be kind of a good investment, oddly.  And if that tenant ever tries to get an auto loan, or apply for credit somewhere, or someday buy a house, that prospective lender will usually say, hey, you gotta pay off this judgment before we’re going to give you a loan.  So, don’t just assume that because the tenant is broke today, or they’re a deadbeat today—fortunes change, and that won’t stay the same forever.


BILL CLINTON: Hi.  This is Bill Clinton, and I want to invite you to hang out with my friend, Jason Hartman, in my hometown of Little Rock.  Jason and his interns, you know I like interns, are having his famous Creating Wealth Seminar and Property Tour here!  So drop everything, including Hillary, and go register at, right now.  This event is coming up soon, but, as I like to say, it depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.  See ya there.


JASON HARTMAN: So, what else happens in the eviction service?  Tell us about that.  Anything else?  Did you hire the attorney on that one already?


MOM: Yes, he sent me a couple of forms to fill out.  And his price for an eviction in Riverside County is $670. 


JASON HARTMAN: Now that’s pretty expensive, actually, huh?


MOM: The prices went up, I think, about a year ago, or a few months ago.  Because it was usually around $599, something like that.


JASON HARTMAN: Boy, I’ve heard of people hiring them for a lot less than that!  I’ve heard of people getting them for $2, $300.  You know, I bet you—and now, those are old properties that are in the Socialist Republic of California.  And I’ll bet you, although I do not know, this is just a guess—that part of that has to do with the fact that California’s such a tenant-friendly state, and it’s just harder to evict people there.  You know, one of the reasons we don’t recommend it as a market.


MOM: You know, I don’t know.  In some counties—Los Angeles County has a different price, and I think San Bernardino County has a slightly different price, and Riverside County has a slightly different price.  So it depends on which county you’re operating in.


JASON HARTMAN: Have you ever done one—did you do one here in the south, where you’ve got your Southern United States properties?


MOM: No, I’ve never done an eviction here.


JASON HARTMAN: And your cash flow’s so much better here too.  You’ve gotta—see, my mom’s strategy—look, folks.  Of course your family’s never gonna really listen to you too much.  But now I can say, you should see her expression right now.  Oh, here we go again, rolling the eyes.  But, selling those properties, those properties that she’s had for decades, okay?  From the 70s, 80s, 90s, maybe you bought some in the 90s, I think you did, and selling them on 1031 exchanges, and exchanging those into other properties in more landlord-friendly places, and you know, with much, much better cash flow, that would be a great strategy for you.  But speaking of that, let’s talk about some of the markets we saw.  Because we took a road trip after your surgery; they let you out of the hospital after two days in ICU, and one day, or one night, I should say, in the regular room in the hospital, where we watched fireworks from your room.  And it was pretty good, actually.  Cleveland had, I don’t know.  How many fireworks displays did we see there?  Maybe 13, 15 fireworks displays?  And a beautiful sunset. 


The Cleveland clinic is like, a hospital that’s sort of on the swankiness level, almost, as the W Hotel, but with the service of a Ritz Carlton.  I was just totally impressed.  And I know you were too.  And so, we watched fireworks there, and you checked out the next day.  And then we drove around Cleveland.  And number one, that was super impressive.  But then we took a road trip, and we went to Cincinnati, we looked at properties, we went to Birmingham, we looked at properties, we went to Nashville, and then back home to Gulf Shores, Alabama, and then I took off to Dallas to go look at some discounted mortgages, discounted notes.  And we’re thinking of offering that to our investors.  So, we’ll talk about that on a future episode in more detail, but it’s interesting.  Talk a little bit about Cleveland, if you would, mom, and then let’s talk about, maybe the other highlight would be Birmingham.  I’ll talk a little bit about the properties I looked at in Dallas, and then we’ll kind of wrap up here.


MOM: I was really, really, really impressed with the city of Cleveland.  I had it in my mind that it was one of these old steel kind of rust belt cities.


JASON HARTMAN: A blighted area.


MOM: But wow was I impressed.  Downtown—beautiful, beautiful displays of flowers everywhere.  And darling restaurants, and shops.  I just couldn’t get over how lovely it looked!  It was incredible!  And then, the drive that we took along Lake Erie, where all of those big, beautiful houses were—I mean, some of them were just like castles.  I was just blown away.


JASON HARTMAN: Those are like the old money—probably old industrial money—homes, and they were very impressive.


MOM: But there were also beautiful neighborhoods that, these weren’t castles, but they were beautiful big homes, just one house after another, huge big lawns, everything was green, lots of trees, flowers, just a lovely sight to drive around.


JASON HARTMAN: Amazingly, you know, some of these former rust belt cities are really finally getting it.  They’re not doing the idiotic thing, you know, the big government liberal thing, where they drive all the businesses out, like California has been for so many years.  And they’re getting it.  I mean, there are a whole bunch of incentives to move your business to Cleveland.  They’ll give you free real estate, they’ll give you free warehouses.  And I mean, mom, one of the things that just, I couldn’t believe it—you know, we went to the rock and roll hall of fame, we had lunch downtown, we had dinner downtown the night before, at that beautiful restaurant—what was that called?  Blue Nose, or something?


MOM: I think it was Blue Point, or Point Blue?


JASON HARTMAN: Blue Point, yeah.


MOM: And there was a horse with carriage that you could drive around the city with—


JASON HARTMAN: There were a few of those, remember?  And remember my dog Coco, who’s in the back seat here—


MOM: Oh, there was more than one of them, definitely.


JASON HARTMAN: Remember how Coco freaked out thinking that horse is a big dog?  She didn’t know what to think of that.  But, that was amazing.  And, it was so clean, I didn’t see a single homeless person anywhere.  Now, maybe it’s just too cold to have many homeless people.  But it wasn’t cold when we were there, of course, in the summer time, but it is other times of the year, and I mean, I was just amazed.  I did not think it would be that nice.  It certainly wasn’t that nice last time I was there years ago.


MOM: And there was one charming area called Little Italy, with all of the tables out on the sidewalks, and the tablecloths, and people eating out in the evening.  It was just totally charming.  I was—I liked it a whole bunch.


Birmingham, Alabama, Real Estate


JASON HARTMAN: Okay, let’s switch gears, and let’s talk about our next real big property stop.  I mean, we did some others, but you know, these are the major highlights we’ll give you.  And that was Birmingham, Alabama.  Now, we’ve been doing business in Birmingham for a while.  We stayed at that beautiful Weston Hotel in Birmingham, and that whole new area of redevelopment there that was really, really nice.  Shops, restaurants—it was gorgeous.  It was really nice.  Then we went out with our provider who we’ve been working with for a long time.  We saw some of the homes that you, the listeners, our clients, have purchased and rented.  And some that are in escrow, or under contract, I should say, and you know, you haven’t closed on them yet.  We saw some of those, and took some video.  And the thing about Birmingham is that there are different management styles, different rehabbers or local market specialists that we work with have a different style of doing business.  And you know, one of the things I say is that this is a very fragmented industry.  Everybody works a little differently.  That’s what keeps the institutional investors largely out of our business.  I know we’ve been talking about hedge funds, and private equity being in the real estate business.  But, they don’t like it very much, and they’re not really staying in it.  They’re not here to stay.  Because


it’s just too fragmented for them.  It’s not easy for them, like other institutional investments that offer lower returns.  But when it’s not your money, your return is not that critical of an issue, okay?  And that’s how they think.  They just get paid to manage capital, right?  So, Birmingham, the key thing there is, our local market specialist there, is what I call the minimalist manager.  And what I mean by that is that these properties are really designed, and the rehab is done in such a way that the property is kind of bulletproof, if you will, where there’s just not that much to break.  And you know, I was thinking about all the properties I own, and have owned over the years, and the things that break, and the things that I get—you know, calls on, or you know, the property manager shoots me an email on, asking me, do I approve this expense to fix this or that.  And I couldn’t believe our local market specialist there, who’s also a property manager.  You know, mom, do you want to talk about some of this minimalist management?  That you, by the way, loved it, okay.  I was a little bit less enamored of it than you.  But the more I think about it, the more I think, gosh, you really could have nearly expense-free properties with this style.  What are your thoughts?


MOM: I was impressed.  Because if you don’t have a garbage disposal to fix, or a dishwasher—


JASON HARTMAN: You know, they said the actually prefer properties with no garages, and if it has a garage, they usually take the garage door out and just make it a room!  Because it’s less things to break, you know?  There’s never going to be a garage door to repair.  There’s never going to be a garage door opener to repair.  Things like that.


MOM: Yeah.  And no microwave oven to replace.  I just love the whole concept of this minimalist type of thing.  It reminded me of houses that were built in Los Angeles in the 1940s.  They didn’t have all of these great, modern improvements, you know?  All of these kitchen packages, the stove, the refrigerator, the microwave, the garbage disposal—that wasn’t in existence in Birmingham.  And those would be great houses.  The rent might be lower, but you’re not going to spend all of that money fixing them up and hiring plumbers to go out there.


JASON HARTMAN: Well, the rent really is quite good.  I mean, these are lower middle houses, okay?  And so, the typical deal there that we looked at, where you’ll buy the property for maybe $55-65,000—I mean, there are—this fluctuates, but this is what we kind of looked at that day.  And it will rent for about 1.2% of the value.  Maybe somewhere in that range.  So, your $60,000 property will rent for $800 a month.  And it’s a minimalist deal, so again, the tenant doesn’t have very high expectations.  They get a single family detached home, and they get a yard, front and back, and they get three bedrooms, and one or two baths—


MOM: And another nice aspect of those homes is, because they are the older homes, is that they typically have hardwood floors in.  So, hardwood floors are much more desirable than carpets.  And you don’t have to keep replacing the carpets.


JASON HARTMAN: Yeah.  A lot less maintenance there.  So, that’s the minimalist style of management.  And what it means—no garbage disposals, no dishwashers, no microwave, no garage, and obviously, no refrigerator, washer, and dryer.  The tenant supplies their own.  And the tenant can treat the dishwasher just like any other appliance.  They don’t, a lot of times, expect a washer, dryer, or a refrigerator.  So, they bring those, and they can bring a dishwasher too.  There are dishwashers that are mobile, that are, you know, not built in.


MOM: When I said the rents are lower, they’re not lower in—they’re lower than the rents that you would get in California.  But in relation to the prices that you pay for those houses, you are having positive cash flow!  I mean great positive cash flow.  And the point is that you get to keep most of it, because you don’t have to spend it all in repairs.


JASON HARTMAN: Yeah, good stuff.  And we’re gonna be touring, by the way, slated for mid, maybe late September, but our Little Rock Property Tour.  By the time you hear this I’m pretty sure it’ll be on the website at, so there’s another great market that you can look at.  And I just—we’re kind of running out of time, so I think I’m going to skip telling you about our Dallas tour.  I mean, not ours as a company, but my Dallas tour.  And I’m not gonna tell you about discounted notes, and those kinds of opportunities, in this show, because we’re already at about 30 minutes here.  But I do want to tell you, go to, join us for our Little Rock Creating Wealth Seminar and Property Tour, and that will be in mid-late September, more details to follow very soon, but you can register and get the early bird pricing, at, in the events section. 




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John Lawrence Allen is a securities litigation attorney helping investors recover funds lost through investment fraud or incompetence. He’s a former Los Angeles Deputy District Attorney and author of the new book, “Make Wall Street Pay You Back.”  Allen talks about the dirty tricks Wall Street plays and how average people can protect themselves from Wall Street.

Allen also gives some tips for investors before they invest a large sum of money with an advisor or hedge fund. He also shares how financial advisors can mitigate their risk of fraud.


Key Takeaways & Time Stamps:

  • (2:20) John Lawrence Allen: background and history of latest book
  • (3:06) How Wall Street and the investment landscape have changed over the last 20 years
  • (4:06) On the arbitration process
  • (7:34) On the laws not being in favor of the consumer
  • (11:34) A brief message from Bill Clinton
  • (12:13) Causes of action: fraud, incompetence, etc.
  • (17:00) The extraordinarily high commissions on life insurance sales
  • (19:11) How does the investor know what fees are being assessed by financial advisors?
  • (22:08) The length of the FINRA arbitration process
  • (22:55) On “simplified arbitration” for small claims
  • (24:58) Discussion of other types of fraud, beyond incompetence and excessive commission
  • (30:20) Discussion of a managed future deal Jason was pitched on
  • (33:30) Some tips on buying gold: always invest in bullion, never numismatic coins
  • (38:12) Who claims are usually made against
  • (39:42) Jon Corzine, MF Global, & the Insider’s Game
  • (44:19) Bad monetary policy forces people to take inappropriate risks
  • (45:03) Closing statements


Links: to purchase the book: Make Wall Street Pay You Back

Find out more about John Lawrence Allen at



Former Los Angeles Deputy District Attorney John Lawrence Allen represents investors nationwide in securities arbitration. Mr. Allen spent seven years working for two major Wall Street firms and was chief investment officer for two hedge funds. Mr. Allen pens a blog on impactful subjects that affect all of us and is a respected legal expert who provides insightful commentary on national TV, radio and print.


Audio Transcription:

ANNOUNCER: Welcome to Creating Wealth with Jason Hartman!  During this program Jason is going to tell you some really exciting things that you probably haven’t thought of before, and a new slant on investing: fresh new approaches to America’s best investment that will enable you to create more wealth and happiness than you ever thought possible.  Jason is a genuine, self-made multi-millionaire who not only talks the talk, but walks the walk.  He’s been a successful investor for 20 years and currently owns properties in 11 states and 17 cities.  This program will help you follow in Jason’s footsteps on the road to financial freedom.  You really can do it!  And now, here’s your host, Jason Hartman, with the complete solution for real estate investors.


JASON HARTMAN: Welcome to the Creating Wealth Show.  This is your host, Jason Hartman, and thank you so much for joining me today.  We’ll be back with today’s guest or segment, in just a moment.




JASON HARTMAN: It’s my pleasure to welcome John Lawrence Allen to the show!  He is a securities litigation attorney, helping investors recover funds lost through investment fraud or incompetence.  He’s a former Los Angeles Deputy District Attorney, and the author of a new book, entitled, Make Wall Street Pay You Back.  And of course you know over the years I’ve said with some degree of sarcasm, that Wall Street is the modern version of organized crime, and my Commandment #3 for successful investing is, maintain control, because when you don’t maintain control, you leave yourself susceptible to three major problems.  Number one, and we’re gonna address that during the interview with John today, you might be investing with a crook.  Number two, you might be investing with an idiot.  And so we’ll address those two.  And number three, even if they’re honest, even if they’re competent, they take a huge management fee off the top for managing the deal.  So, we’ll kind of dive into this.  John, welcome.  How are you?


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: I’m good.  How are you today?


JASON HARTMAN: Good, good.  Well, it’s great to have you.  And just to give our listeners a sense of geography, where are you located?


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: My office is in White Plains, New York.  I used to have an office in California and midtown Manhattan, and I’ve now moved out to the Connecticut countryside to work in White Plains.


John Lawrence Allen: background and history of latest book


JASON HARTMAN: Fantastic.  Well, tell us about your background, and how you came to write the book.


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Well, I wrote my first book, Investor Beware, 20 years ago.  And that was—actually, more than 20 years, I guess it’s been now.  Almost 25 years ago.  And that was the result of having been in the industry.  I spent 7 years on Wall Street, and I invented an arbitraged [unintelligible] program.  That’s how I went into Wall Street.  And I got very, very dissatisfied with the [unintelligible], and the outright unethical activity I saw around me.  And it got so bad that I quit, and I wrote my first book, Investor Beware, to help people protect themselves from the way Wall Street operates.  But over the last 20 years, the entire investment landscape has radically, radically changed.  And the entire way brokers do business has changed.  And if investors aren’t aware of these changes, they may very well end up becoming victims of the Wall Street community.


How Wall Street and the investment landscape have changed over the last 20 years


JASON HARTMAN: You know, when you say those changes, I don’t know what you’re referring to, so I’ll have you tell me.  but is one of them—one way that I think large corporations really oppress people, is through the commercial arbitration act.  And I know so many years ago in the 90s, when there was a lot of securities fraud in the news—of course, that seems to be an ongoing issue, of course.  And, you know, a lot of people have lost money in the stock market.  They made some new rules—I don’t know, you know, exactly which agency that came out of.  Maybe it was the FCC, or FINRA, I didn’t mean to say FCC, did I say that?  The SEC, the Scoundrels Encouragement Commission, as it’s been called.  But it is—is that arbitration?  Because arbitration, really I think takes away people’s rights quite a bit.


On the arbitration process


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Well, that’s an interesting—there’s two sides to that coin.  Yes, they take away people’s rights.  And people don’t know it, but if you have a problem with a broker dealer—that’s, you know, any licensed firm that buys and sells securities for you—if you have a problem with the representative who works at a broker dealer, when you sign your contract with them, you waive your right to a court trial or jury trial.  That means, you don’t get to be in front of a group of your peers, you don’t get to have any of the help that you would get in a court room, or in a civil or jury trial.  That’s the negative side.  But there’s a positive side to it.  The positive side is, you’re gonna go into arbitration, which is significantly less expensive, significantly less time-consuming, and far swifter justice than you could ever get in a court.  Let’s say you win a court case, and what’s gonna happen?  Well, the arbitration—not the arbitration.  Securities firm is going to appeal that matter, and you’re gonna get stuck in court for another couple of years.  On the other hand, if you go to FINRA—Financial Industry Regulatory Authority arbitration—you’re gonna be in front in a case of $100,000 or more, three arbitration judges, who are gonna rule very quickly, and you’re gonna have a result very quickly.  And if you win, they have to pay within 30 days.  You don’t have any of the problems of collecting, or appeal, or the lengthy process that’s involved in the court proceeding.  And there’s one more positive, I find, in arbitration.  That is, if you get into a complex securities case, there are complex issues and facts that the average juror really can’t grasp that well.  But these arbitrators are usually business people, and they have a business background, and they understand wrongdoing when they see it, and they’re not afraid to make an award.  The one thing that is difficult is to try to get punitive damages.  That’s very difficult arbitration.  I’ve attained it more than once, I’ve gotten it, but it’s a difficult road to go, to try to get punitive damages.  And lastly, you don’t have to get bogged down in a motion practice where a wealthy brokerage company with an unlimited pocket can paper you to death with motions and motions to compel and sanctions and hearings and depositions and request remissions and all the discovery stuff that goes on.  None of that’s allowed in arbitration.


JASON HARTMAN: I mean, I’ve been in arbitrations.  They have depositions though.


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Not in federal arbitration.  For securities cases.  Yes, in civil arbitration, but if you go into a FINRA arbitration, there are no depositions, there are no request remissions, there are no interrogatories.  You can do a document request, but it’s very limited, which means that you’re gonna save a great amount of time and a great amount of expense, and a great amount of heartache.  So, all in all, oddly enough I actually—when I started, I didn’t like, or I perceived not to like, the arbitration process.  But now that I’ve done it for so many years, I think that it’s a good methodology to get swift justice.


JASON HARTMAN: Okay.  Well, I don’t want to belabor that one, because it’ll take away from sort of the crux of our discussion, but it’s good to hear your point of view on that.  So, the thing you were saying, in terms of the laws not being in favor of the consumer, in this case the investor, is no jury trial, and what was the other one?


On the laws not being in favor of the consumer


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: No court trial.  No judge—


JASON HARTMAN: Okay, no court trial at all.  So, arbitration.  But, were there any other things you wanted to mention there, before I got you on this tangent of arbitration?


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Well, I just—I think that the cost effectiveness is so overwhelmingly in the—you know what it does?  It puts you on an even footing with someone who has an unlimited budget, which you can’t do in litigation unless you’re willing to spend the money to ante up.  But in arbitration, you’re on an equal footing with your opponent.  And if you have a competent, skilled, highly qualified and knowledgeable attorney who knows the ins and outs of FINRA arbitration, you’ve got a long way towards getting your money back.


JASON HARTMAN: So, that may be different—and again, I don’t want to belabor this arbitration point too much, because there’s other issues, of course.  But, it sounds like it’s better, with a FINRA situation, for people that have been defrauded, just lost money because of incompetence on Wall Street.  But in a typical arbitration, those arbitrators—I think, I’m pretty sure, they really lean toward the person who put the arbitration clause into the contract, because they view them as repeat customers, and we’ll call it part of the vast Wall—the vast arbitration conspiracy.  It blows my mind that AAA, the American Arbitration Association, is actually a nonprofit organization.  The fees are enormous.  And we all pay taxes to have a public court system.  And listen, I’m no fan of prolonged litigation, or litigation at all, but gosh, why do you have to pay for a private court, which in the typical arbitration, probably not FINRA, with what you explained, acts, in my opinion, as a bit of a kangaroo court—especially the fact that these things are confidential.  And you get these real estate developers that develop these condo properties and so forth, and you know, they all put arbitration clauses in their contracts.  And you can’t do a litigation search on them before you, say, buy a property, to see if they’re a bad apple, if they’ve been sued by hundreds of investors!  It’s all hidden from public view.  And that just makes me think of a Third World, Banana Republic country where they’ve got these kangaroo courts, and you know, our whole system is based on transparency.  At least that was the original idea of it.  So, that’s my bone to pick with arbitration.


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Well, you raise a good point.  And I would tend to agree with you.  Up until a couple years ago, arbitration had two panel members that were public, and one who actually came from the industry, and it was in many cases biased in favor of the arbitration people, meaning the broker dealers.  And I think the statistics, not from me personally, but the statistics generally bear out your concerns.  People don’t do all that well in arbitration.  They win about half their cases, and of the cases they win, they win about half the money they got back.  So, I don’t put that as good odds.  That’s not been my experience, but I am very selective in the cases I take, and I put in a great deal of time to win these cases.  I understand that you’re not gonna get money from three business people unless you can find a way to emotionally connect your client with them.  if you can’t find a way for them to care about your client, they’re not gonna give you anything back.  But if you can find a way to develop the cast to find an emotional connection—something that touches them, they’re gonna be far more willing to knock the arbitration—when I say, to go after the broker dealer for fraud.


JASON HARTMAN: Let me take a brief pause; we’ll be back in just a minute.


A brief message from Bill Clinton


BILL CLINTON: Hi.  This is Bill Clinton, and I want to invite you to hang out with my friend, Jason Hartman, in my hometown of Little Rock.  Jason and his interns, you know I like interns, are having his famous Creating Wealth Seminar and Property Tour here!  So drop everything, including Hillary, and go register at, right now.  This event is coming up soon, but, as I like to say, it depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.  See ya there.




Causes of action: fraud, incompetence, etc.


JASON HARTMAN: Let’s talk about what are some of the causes of action.  I mean, of course fraud is one of them.  But you also mentioned incompetence, and when someone has a securities claim, whom is the claim directed at?  You know, you’ve got the advisor who works at Merrill Lynch, which in my opinion, or whatever firm, I’m just saying Merrill Lynch because they’re big.  But they can work at any firm; Ameriprise, Merrill Lynch, whatever, okay, and I tend to find those advisors are usually just slick salespeople who wear nice suits, okay?  Nothing more than salespeople.  They have cursory knowledge.  Very little real depth of knowledge, usually.  Of course I’m making a generalization here, and I apologize to those smart, great, ethical good brokers out there, because there are some.  But you’ve got the broker, you’ve got the investment banker, you’ve got the firm.  Who are you really—you’ve got the company.  There are so many layers to this.


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Well, let’s talk about that for a second.  People don’t know that you can hold a brokerage firm and its registered representative—that’s the stock broker who provides you with a recommendation—for giving bad advice.  People think, well, that doesn’t sound right!  If he gave me bad advice?  I mean, if I get advice, and the stock doesn’t do what he thought, how can he be responsible?  And the corollary, or the answer to that, is this.  Under the FINRA guidelines, and the Securities and Exchange Commission guidelines, brokers are required to know your risk tolerance, time horizon, financial goals, and anything that can affect your capacity to invest.  That means if you’re employed, unemployed, medical problems, but mostly, what they have to do is they have to match the correct product with your goals, objectives, risk tolerance, and time horizon, so that they make a recommendation that’s suitable for you.  So, if you’re 35, and have a good job, and you want to take some risk with having 70, 60, 75% of your money in the stock market, probably not bad.  The opposite of that is, what if you’re 65 or 70, and you’re retired, and living on your retirement assets, it would not be appropriate for a broker to recommend that you buy a highly speculative stock, or that you have 70 or 80% of your investments in equities, and stocks!


JASON HARTMAN: They seem like they do a pretty—I mean, I’m sure there are brokers out there that do that kind of stuff, but it seems like they do a pretty good job of making all the appropriate disclaimers, and you gotta sign a mountain of paperwork that of course is all written in their favor, and has a zillion disclaimers, and a lot of legalese—I mean, don’t they pretty much cover themselves on that type of stuff usually?


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: The paperwork covers them perfectly fine.  But that doesn’t relieve them from their obligation.  A broker that makes a recommendation to a customer has a fiduciary duty to that customer to put the customer ahead of the broker.  So, let’s say I have a client who wants to make an investment of a couple hundred thousand dollars, and I want to put them in what quote is a suitable investment, based on what they’ve told me about themselves.  Unless they put it in a suitable investment, I can make, let’s say, $200,000 investment, maybe I can make $100, $150 in fees.  However, if I put them in something that the brokerage company is promoting, or pays a double commission, or is highly speculative, I might be able to charge them significantly more.  Let’s say $1000.  So, if I can make $1000 on a improper or unsuitable investment, and $100 or $200 on one that’s suitable, that puts in kind of a trap for the broker to say to themselves well you know, I’m really gonna forgo that extra 800 bucks I’m gonna make on this transaction and do what’s right for my client.  How many people have the ethical and moral heart to do that?


The extraordinarily high commissions on life insurance sales


JASON HARTMAN: Not a lot of people, certainly on Wall Street.  Not a lot.  And you know, when you say that, it reminds me of two investments that are really just laden with heavy commissions, from what I understand.  One of them is oil and gas, and another is life insurance.  The fact that life insurance is even kind of promoted as an investment bugs me in some ways, although the needle might be moving a little bit, for me, on that.  But still, I just think it’s insurance.  You know?  But those—I mean, some of these things have extraordinarily high commissions.  I mean, I’ll give you an example of one.  One time a life insurance guy came into my office, and he wanted to market his life insurance products as an investment to my investors in my real estate firm.  And he slapped down literally a copy of some checks that he earned on some policies that he sold.  And one of them was like a $7 million life insurance policy.  And I’m not gonna get this exactly right, because I don’t remember, but the check was for like $250,000.  I mean, it was insane, how—he says, look, I could split this with you.  I’m like, well don’t I have to have a license or something?  And he says, well, there’s a way around that.  We’ll reclassify the fee.  And obviously I didn’t do any deal with him, but I mean, some of these commissions on these things are just extraordinary.  On these oil and gas deals?  I hear that some of them are like half of the investment amount!  You know, if they get an investor to put $100,000 into some oil and gas deal, the salesmen will make 50 grand!  Whoa!  That’s crazy!


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Yep.  That’s true.  And in fact, if you want to go back a little bit further in time, there was a period in the late 80s and middle 90s where Prudential [unintelligible], which, you know, the rock solid, sold 400,000 of its customers $8 billion in phony partnership deals.  And those deals, they were making 30, 35, and 40% off the top before the customer saw a single dime.


JASON HARTMAN: Unbelievable.  That’s just—that’s just crazy.  So, is—so, okay.  So, the broker, or the investment advisor, with a registered rep—I don’t know exactly what to call them—but, they steer the investor into something that’s not as good for them, that obviously pays them a higher fee.  Right?  So, that’s one form of—that’s one actionable thing.  Now, how is the investor ever going to find that out though?  How does the investor know what the menu of fees is for the things that that advisor has to steer them into, available to them?


How does the investor know what fees are being assessed by financial advisors?


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Well, that’s a very tough question.  And that’s a very good question.  And the reason is because on a lot of these products that they’re selling a product, the commission’s in the product, and the customer will never know.  So, on that $200,000 example, if the broker makes $5000, you know, a 2½% fee, and that’s in the cost of the $200,000, that means that really 195 of your money actually ever went into the investment.  And there’s no way you can know, unless you read the prospectus, or you ask the broker.  They’re certainly not gonna volunteer and tell you, oh yeah I’m gonna make 5 grand on this break.  And also, that also happens on principle transactions.  If you ever buy a stock or a bond, most bonds are sold on principle transactions.


JASON HARTMAN: What is a principle transaction?  What does that mean?


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: A principle transaction is where there’s no commission charge.  The fee is in the price of the bond.




JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: So, as an example, if I call up my broker and say, you know, I want to get a 10-year bond, and let’s say you can get a 10-year bond for 2.3% return per year over the 10 years.  So, you buy the bond with this 2.3%.  You don’t know what the brokerage firm picked that up for.  Let’s say they picked it up for 2%, and they charge you 2.3.  That difference in that spread is an enormous markup.  It could be many thousands of dollars.  So you just don’t know in a principle transaction, and that’s another way brokerage companies can—in fact, I’ve gotta case right now, I have a lady who had a very, very, very substantial portfolio, many millions of dollars, and she was charged over $3 million in markups and fees on bond transactions, and she never knew it, over the course of a 6-year period.


JASON HARTMAN: Wow.  Wow.  So, $3 million in fees and markups on what—


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: On municipal bond transactions.  The safest most conservative of all transactions.


JASON HARTMAN: Right.  Yeah, right.  And I’ll tell you something.  If you ask me, a lot more municipalities are gonna be filing bankruptcy in the future, because there are so many of them underwater.  Of course we’ve seen that with Detroit, Vallejo, California, some others.  But very interesting.  So, $3 million in fees—that is unbelievable!  What was the principle investment though?  I’ve gotta have some comparison.


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: She had $30 million in municipal bonds.




JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: In a laddered portfolio that never should have been touched, that had never been—not that—there should not have been any transactions, and in 6 years they traded $120 million with the bonds in her portfolio.


JASON HARTMAN: Unbelievable.  That’s just insane.  So, she’s in process, right?  Did you recover for her yet?


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: We’re in the arbitration process now.


JASON HARTMAN: How long does that take, when it’s a FINRA arbitration?  What’s the length of that process?


The length of the FINRA arbitration process


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Somewhere between 11 and 14 months, on average.


JASON HARTMAN: Okay, alright.  And, what is the amount of money—I mean, obviously that’s a large client with some big money you’re talking about, in terms of the investment size, and the investment losses.  But, how much does someone need to lose in order to make going to a FINRA arbitration worth it?


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Well, that’s a good question.  I would answer that in twofold.  First of all, anybody that wants to seek help should only hire an attorney that would be willing to work on a contingent fee so they don’t end up spending a lot of money trying to get back their losses.  That’s item one.  Two, there are different levels of arbitration.  FINRA, within the last year and a half, has established a new type of arbitration called small claims.  They call it simplified arbitration.


On “simplified arbitration” for small claims


JASON HARTMAN: Oh, that’s great.  Like small claims court kind of idea.


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Kind of, but a little different.  And that would—for FINRA, small claim is any loss below $50,000.  And if you have a loss below $50,000, you don’t—and you go into this simplified arbitration, you don’t even have to appear at a hearing.  You submit the entire claim, on paperwork; the respondents, the broker dealer, file an answer, and one arbitrator makes a ruling without you ever having to appear.  So it saves you testimony, litigation cost, travel expense, hearing fees, expert testimony.  It’s all done in the pleas.  Now, you don’t have to do it that way.  If the case is $50,000 or smaller, you have a one party, one arbitration chairperson, that’s it.  You don’t have a panel of three.  You have a panel of three above $100,000.  So really, I would say anybody that loses $10,000 or more, even $5000 or more, it’s certainly worth it to pursue it.  I don’t think you’d probably get many attorneys to handle a $5000 case.  But I’ve developed a methodology to help people with cases between $10 and $50,000, which is on my website, and I take them into the small claims arbitration process, and the whole thing can be done for very, very little money, and the best part is, unlike regular arbitration, small claims are usually resolved in 7 months or less.


JASON HARTMAN: Excellent.  So give out your website if you would.  That’s a great resource, thank you.


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Well, my website is the same as my book; the book is Make Wall Street Pay You Back, and the website


JASON HARTMAN:  And you’ve got the small claims information on there, which is fantastic.  But then also, for larger losses, they can hire you, or another attorney?




Discussion of other types of fraud, beyond incompetence and excessive commission


JASON HARTMAN: Okay, good.  So, talk to us more about some of the other types of fraud out there.  there’s incompetence, there’s, I guess I’ll call it steering to the product that pays the highest commission.  What else is there?


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Well, beyond the suitability issues, which are very numerous, and that expands a lot of things that brokers might do.  They might put you in—there’s an example, as I said before, if you’re 70 years of age, you probably shouldn’t be in a 75% stock portfolio.  On the other hand, if you’re 75 and they put you on 100% in one investment, and over-concentrate you, that’s not correct, that’s not suitable either.  So, it really doesn’t matter what age you are.  if a brokerage company takes all your money and puts it in one investment, that’s clearly unsuitable, because if that investment goes down—even Apple, as an example.  People do fabulous in Apple, but Apple also had, about six months ago, a 300-point drawdown.  And if you had all your money in Apple, you’re hurting!  So, that’s another thing they do.  Also churning.  Churning is where a broker makes excessive buys and sells in your account, without an interest in making you profits, the broker’s interest is in getting as many commissions as they can from your account.  And what’s interesting is in a churning case, you could actually—I’ve had cases in churning where the client never knew the account was churned, because they didn’t lose any money!  The account was churned for a couple years, they ended up—you know, the stock market was up 30% over a two-year period and their account was flat.  They couldn’t understand why.  And when I dived into it, I found out, well, it was flat because $200,000 in commissions were paid over that period, and if you hadn’t had the $200,000 in commissions, you would have been up 200 grand, and you would have been up pretty much where the stock market was.  So, if a broker exercises control over the account, and buys and sells excessively to generate commissions, they churn your account, and that’s actionable.


JASON HARTMAN: So, in other words, you don’t have to have actually lost money in the aggregate.  You could still have an investment.  Your portfolio could still be up.  But just because of the malfeasance of the brokerage firm, or the individual broker, you could have lost money through churning—now, the churning thing, is that as big as a deal anymore?  Because it seems like the industry has moved to a model of managed money, where all they’re really doing is, you give them $100,000, and they’re charging you, you know, 2% a year, or whatever the number is.  And you’re not really paying for trades.  But, one of the scams is, a lot of times, you’re paying in multiple layers!  So, you’ll give the guy sitting at Merrill Lynch your $100,000, and he’ll say, well, I’m gonna charge you 2% a year, or whatever the number is, and so, he doesn’t make money on churning per se, but then what he does is he goes and he puts your money into a bunch of other funds like mutual funds where they’re making money inside that fund too, because of all these management fees.  I mean, that’s just, wow.


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Well, you’re absolutely correct.  And that is—and that’s one of the things I had to cite in the book.  The methodology on Wall Street has shifted from a commission-driven business to an asset-gathering business.  So, the churning claims are down dramatically.  They’re not out.  And the reason they’re not out is because there are products called managed futures.  And most of these managed future products really don’t exist to have the customer make money.  They exist for the broker dealer to reap huge commissions from buying and selling at a high velocity commodities.  And, what’s interesting about these managed futures, is most of them have a program in which, let’s say you give somebody 50 grand.  And let’s say they have a hot hand and their managed commodity accounts have doubled, and you go up from 50 to 100,000.  The prudent thing to do would be to pull your 50 out and play with their money.  But that’s not what they do.  What they do is, if you go to $100,000, they merely double the amount of contracts they’re trading, so they can generate double the commissions.  So, if you had a $50,000 account, and you were doing, let’s say, five contracts in a trade, and you now have $100,000 account, they double that, they go to 10 contracts.  Let’s say you make an incredible profit, you go to $200,000. Your 50 has grown to 200.  Well, you’re now gonna go from 5 to 20 contracts.  Which means that even the smallest move, after those enormous profits, will wipe out all your gains in a very short time.  Classic example of that is long term capital, which made 30, 35, 40% a year for three years, and then in six weeks, wiped out not only all of the gains, but the $4.5 billion that was still there.  Totally wiped it out when the commodity markets went the wrong way.


Discussion of a managed future deal Jason was pitched on


JASON HARTMAN: Wow, unbelievable.  Hey, can I run something by you that I was pitched on?  I actually had the guy on one of my shows, and it sounded pretty good…it’s a managed future deal, and I just wanted to see what you thought of it.




JASON HARTMAN: I didn’t do this investment; at least not yet.  But, the guy was pretty convincing, I have to tell you.  And so, he works in Chicago, and you know, is on the floor of the exchange there, and the big pitch is that Japan, which most of us know is massively in debt, the whole country is just in a mess.  I mean, the US is too, but the US has the reserve currency, and you know, some different circumstances, obviously.  And the pitch is that Japan will default on their debt, and what you should do is over a 5-year plan, with a $30,000 minimum investment, let me buy options on this debt, that it’ll default.  Let me short the Japanese debt.  It’s just saying, it’s gonna default at some point.  And there will be what’s called option decay.  Now, granted, I don’t have a big understanding of this.  I’m just a consumer.  But there’s something called option decay, and as the option decays, what he’s basically doing is over the course of five years, using $500,000 per month of your $30,000.  I think—I don’t know the math on that.  Yeah, 60 months.  500 a month.  To pay for option decay.  But at some point in that 5 years, there’s gonna be a default, and you’re gonna win, you’re gonna make money.  That’s the prediction.  Of course it’s a prediction.  What do you think of that?


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Well, that’s a long-term bet, and I guess the thing I’d be most concerned about would be, do they have the—I presume this is not an exchange-traded fund?  If it doesn’t trade at any known stock exchange or commodity exchange, you have to worry about the counterparty risk of the person, should they do what they claim it’s gonna do, are they gonna be able to pay you?  And a lot of these counterparty risk cases that have come up during the 08, 09 crisis when a lot of off-market contracts were traded, and they couldn’t make good when the unlikely event occurred, like AIG, which was betting on collateralized debt obligations, they said, oh, no country’s ever gonna go into bankruptcy.  No, we’re not really gonna have to worry about that.  And lo and behold, Greece goes into bankruptcy, and AIG almost went under!  Took us close to a trillion dollars to bail out AIG, which I think was a big mistake.  But there was a counterparty who couldn’t pay!


JASON HARTMAN: Maybe the concept is a winner.  Maybe it actually works.  But then the counterparty just defaults, and they can’t pay you.


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Yeah, that’s why I try to stick with anything that’s exchange listed.  So then at least I know they’re going through a well known New York stock exchange, the COMEX, the NASDAQ, and there’s some third party who’s trying to make sure that they’re gonna honor their margin requirements.


Some tips on buying gold: always invest in bullion, never numismatic coins


JASON HARTMAN: Good.  Okay, good point, good point.  Okay, what else should people know?  Do you want to talk about any other types of investments?  I mean, maybe you want to mention just quickly maybe gold?  I know that that’s not a huge market, but we touched on oil and gas.  If, you know, you want to mention any other alternatives.


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Well, I think for gold, my suggestion would be, anybody who wants to invest in gold, I don’t have a problem with them investing in gold.  I do have a problem in how they do it.  I don’t think anybody who wants to own gold should ever use leverage, options, or margin.  They should only buy it for cash.  They should take delivery, they shouldn’t allow any third party to store their gold, and they should only buy gold from a reputable dealer who’s been in business over 10 years, and then finally, only gold bullion, not numismatic coins which are supposed to have great asset value.  And when I say bullion, I mean a Canadian maple leaf, an American gold eagle, you know, a South African Kruger rand, an Austrian krone, some well known gold bullion that’s difficult to make in a, what I would call a forged or dishonest way.


JASON HARTMAN: Right, right.  A lot—the scams and the numismatic market are rampant, and every gold dealer, when you call them up, you know, a lot of times they’re advertising on the radio, and they’re promoting the concept of gold or silver or platinum or palladium, and they’re talking about bullion.  But when you call them, they try to up sell you to numismatic coins, because they’re just much higher margins.


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Tremendous, tremendous margins.  You’re talking sometimes 30, 40% margin on a numismatic coin.


JASON HARTMAN: Right.  But you know, that’s not a security necessarily.  I mean, are you talking about—see, I think the only way someone should invest in gold, or precious metals, is in the way where you actually take possession of it.




JASON HARTMAN: You’re talking about inside of a fund, right?  I mean, you’re not talking about—I mean, there’s—there are frauds where people actually take possession, and they find out the metal is fake.  But I don’t think that’s super common, probably.


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Those are very, very rare.  And those are usually not government-sponsored products like American eagles or maple leaves from Canada.  And, they’re usually sold by disreputable dealers.  But if you buy gold from a reputable dealer and have it shipped to your home, put in a safety deposit box, or bury it somewhere, that’s the safe way.  You don’t want to have them tell you, oh, we’ll store it for you.  No, you want your gold, if you’re gonna buy gold.


JASON HARTMAN: I agree with you.  The point of that types of investing is to be in possession of it.  absolutely.  And I just can’t believe the people that go for these deals where they say, oh, they’re gonna store them in a vault in Switzerland.  Yeah, right.


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: And another thing now—another section of my book, Make Wall Street Pay You Back, is, as you said very early on, we’re no longer a commission-driven business; we’re a management business, where they grab their assets and send them out to management.  That adds a layer of protection to the broker dealer and the registered representative, the stockbroker.  However, that doesn’t stop them from still having to make a suitable recommendation to this manager.  So, when you go to a broker dealer and you give them your assets, and they agree to manage them, and they’re not gonna charge you a commission, they’re gonna charge you a percentage of the assets you have under management, you need to be sure that whatever manager they hire, that that manager is—and the manager style—is in keeping with your goals, objectives, risk tolerance, and time horizon.  You don’t want to go into an all equity small cap microcap fund, if you’re trying to invest in what is supposed to be on the stock investing side, a more conservative portfolio.  And also, you want to be sure that the style of that manager doesn’t involve, unless you’re willing to take that risk—you know, I’m not saying risk is bad.  You just need to know about it, make an informed consent about it, and be willing to accept it.  But you need to be sure that that style of that manager is in keeping with your risk assessment.  Because, if you don’t want to take a lot of risk, then you can’t have options, derivatives, or futures, or leverage, employed by that manager.  So you need to know the style, and the type of investments, and where they’re gonna make those investments.


Who claims are usually made against


JASON HARTMAN: Toward the beginning of the show I talked to you about all the different layers of this onion, and how, who are you really—who is your claim against?  We’ve talked about registered reps, brokerage firms.  What about the other people in the food chain?  And then, all the way up to the actual company, whose stock you own.  In the board of directors, and the CEO, and the CFO, and the CTO—all of these guys are just skimming off the top.  I mean, the Dennis Kozlowskis of the world, and all the rest of them.  I mean, there’s a lot of fraud going on at that level too, where, you know, the brokerage firm could be okay, the rep could be okay, but the actual company whose stock you own, do you go after them too?


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Well, I try to make a rule not to go after anybody who has a questionable pocketbook to recover from.  Generally—




JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Generally, when there is a corporate crime, or a corporate fraud, most of the time, not always, most of the time, there aren’t assets sufficient to recover for the shareholders.


JASON HARTMAN: Because they’ve sucked it all out of the company, and the company’s basically an empty shell.


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Exactly.  Madoff, or Enron, or Delphi, you know, if we were to go back a few years to all of the security problems going on.  But interestingly enough, if you do it at a grand enough scale, you get to walk away scot-free and you don’t even go to prison.


JASON HARTMAN: It’s unbelievable.  Yeah.


Jon Corzine, MF Global, & the Insider’s Game


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: A perfect example is Corzine, who was the governor of New Jersey—




JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: And Jon Corzine.  And he was a huge donator to the Democratic Party, and a big supporter of Obama, and he took over a company, MF Global.  And they were just a plain bread and butter vanilla commodity broker.  They bought and sold commodities, they made, you know, a few pennies off of the buying and selling of these commodities.  Well, he didn’t think that was enough money.  So he went and made a multi-billion dollar—I think 3.6, to be exact—billion dollar bet on the debt of other countries and companies.  And that bet went awry.  Very badly awry.  And Corzine went in, and he claims he did not do this.  He claims he didn’t know.  But under his supervision as the chairman of the company, they invaded the assets of their own clients, and stole $1.3 billion of assets from their clients to cover their bad bet.


JASON HARTMAN: And that’s Jon Corzine, and $1.3 billion, that’s billion with a ‘b.’  Not million—billion, okay?  Huge.


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Correct.  Took it out of their clients’ accounts.  They got caught, they had to return what money they could find, he paid a fine, and he walked away without going to jail for committing absolute grand larceny on a monster scale.


JASON HARTMAN: Un-fricking-believable.  I mean, this is so disgusting.  It’s just—it’s just disgusting!  And it’s amazing to me, like, one of the things I tell my listeners is, don’t trust resumes.  Ken Lay, with Enron—he was buddies with George Bush, okay?  I’m sure the pictures were all over the company for people to see when they came in.  Bernie Madoff was president of NASDAQ.  Jon Corzine was governor of New Jersey!  I mean, your resume doesn’t get much better than any of those, right?


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Oh, absolutely.  And let’s add to the list Mr. Mozilo, who was the chairman of Countrywide, who got bought out by B of A, and he was one of the large perpetrators of the entire mortgage debacle, and people lost billions, maybe even trillions, and he walked away scot-free and he, he had his “friends of Mozilo,” who got mortgage—well, I should put it this way.  Members of Congress and the Senate, who got special mortgages from Countrywide at highly reduced rates, because they were friends of Mozilo.  And he walked away scot-free.


JASON HARTMAN: It’s just a total insider’s game.  That old question, you know, when the broker takes his buddy down to show his buddy his new yacht, and his friend says, where are all the clients’ yachts?  You know?  It’s an in—that’s what people have to understand.  Wall Street is an insider’s game.  And the insiders are the ones who get rich, because the insiders have all the connections, and they basically make the laws.  Because they have lobbyists, they have lawyers, they have PR firms, they have accounting firms, and the game is just so stacked against the investor, I don’t know why the general public is still playing in this field.  They’re totally outgunned!  And then you look at Michael Lewis and his great new book, Flash Boys, which I’m sure you’re familiar with—I mean, are these—Goldman Sachs—are they just a totally criminal organization too?  Probably.  I don’t know.  It sure seems like it.  It’s just unbelievable.  I mean, in Flash Boys, which I highly recommend, Michael Lewis talks—he just profiles all of these companies that are like, getting in line to do this high frequency trading, where the speed of light is not even fast enough anymore, at 186,000 miles per second, and all the people profiting from all of this stuff in the food chain, it’s beyond despicable.  It’s totally rigged.


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: It’s very difficult.  It’s a hard game to play.  But, the other side of the coin is, with the Fed maintaining these totally illusionary, 0% interest rates—


JASON HARTMAN: What else can you do?


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Everybody’s having a hard time trying to make ends meet, and they’re forced, almost, to go into the stock market.


Bad monetary policy forces people to take inappropriate risks


JASON HARTMAN: Yeah, they’re forced to do—see, this is—bad monetary policy like we have, forces people to take inappropriate risk!  Because they can’t get any yield in their bank account.  And it’s so sad to see the people that are older and have really done the right thing all their lives.  You know, they saved money, they planned for the future, they delayed gratification, and now they got a few bucks.  It’s sitting in a bank account, being destroyed by taxes and inflation, especially inflation, which, you know, is higher than what the government would have us believe, and they just can’t get any yield.  So, they go in, and they play with the stock market, and, you know what happens.  I mean, that’s your business.




JASON HARTMAN: Yeah.  It really—




Closing statements


JASON HARTMAN: Yeah.  It really is sad.  Well, this has been a fascinating discussion.  A lot of people tell lawyer jokes, but I’m glad there are lawyers out there who really help people get some justice.  And one of them is you, so, thank you for doing that.  And give out your website again.  Of course the book is  I definitely encourage people to read it: Make Wall Street Pay You Back.  The website is the same name, right?


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Yeah.  There’s also a section in the book about arbitration, what it’s like, what you have to know, what it’s like to go through one, so people won’t feel so nervous about going through the process, and realizing that they have rights, they ought to stick up for their rights, and not be afraid to pursue even Merrill Lynch or Morgan Stanley or Goldman Sachs.


JASON HARTMAN: Good.  Good stuff.  Well John Lawrence Allen, thank you so much for joining us today.  This has been very informative.


JOHN LAWRENCE ALLEN: Thank you very much, Jason, and I appreciate the time.




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ANNOUNCER (FEMALE): And this set of advanced strategies for wealth creation is being offered for only $197.


ANNOUNCER (MALE): To get your creating wealth encyclopedia, book one, complete with over 20 hours of audio, go to


ANNOUNCER (FEMALE): If you want to be able to sit back and collect checks every month, just like a banker, Jason’s creating wealth encyclopedia series is for you.




ANNOUNCER: This show is produced by the Hartman Media Company.  All rights reserved.  For distribution or publication rights and media interviews, please visit, or email  Nothing on this show should be considered specific personal or professional advice.  Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, or business professional for any individualized advice.  Opinions of guests are their own, and the host is acting on behalf of Platinum Properties Investor Network, Inc. exclusively.


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Robert Kiyosaki is the acclaimed author of Rich Dad Poor Dad. The Rich Dad Company has made Rich Dad Scams: 8 Financial Scams Disguised as Wisdom available for free eBook download, so Kiyosaki talks in detail about scams everyone needs to understand.


Kiyosaki discusses the fundamental challenges with the traditional school system and how corporate America kills the entrepreneurial genius of many bright workers.


Kiyosaki then answers how much money one should save in his or her bank account. 


Robert Kiyosaki is a fourth-generation Japanese-American who grew up in Hawaii. He joined the Marine Corps after graduating from college in New York, and went to Vietnam as an officer and helicopter gunship pilot. After the war, Robert went to work for the Xerox Corporation and in 1977 started a company that brought the first nylon Velcro surfer wallets to market. Feeling that he had something important to teach, Robert founded a new company in 1985 to teach business and investing to tens of thousands of students throughout the world.  


At the age of 47 Robert retired from his business to devote time to writing, and in 1997 published the #1 New York Times best seller, Rich Dad Poor Dad. Soon afterward he wrote Rich Dad’s Cashflow Quadrant, Rich Dad’s Guide to Investing, and Rich Kid Smart Kid.  


All the books have been on the best-seller lists of the Wall Street Journal, Business Week, New York Times,, and other distinguished lists. Robert also created educational board games to teach individuals the same financial strategies his rich dad spent years teaching him… strategies that helped him retire at the age of 47.  


Robert Kiyosaki’s goal is to give people information that will help them make their money work hard for them, rather than simply working hard for money.


Find out more about The Rich Dad Company at and

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Bruce Fein is a lawyer in the United States who specializes in constitutional and international law. Fein has written numerous articles on constitutional issues for The Washington Times,, The New York Times, Legal Times, and is active on the issues of civil liberties. He has also worked for the American Enterprise Institute, and the Heritage Foundation, both conservative think tanks as an analyst and commentator.


Fein is a principal in a government affairs and public relations firm, The Lichfield Group in Washington D.C. He is also a resident scholar at the Turkish Coalition of America.

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Ray Bourhis is a partner with the law firm of Bourhis & Wolfson in San Francisco, California, specializing in insurance bad-faith litigation. A graduate of Boalt Hall at the University of California, Berkeley, Bourhis has been a court-appointed Special Master overseeing reforms in the California Department of Insurance and was appointed by U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer to her Federal Judicial Selection Advisory Committee. 



He was recently profiled by Ed Bradley in a 60 Minutes report concerning fraudulent insurance practices. Born and raised in Elmhurst, Queens, Bourhis credits an attempt by gang members to throw him into a blazing bonfire at the age of twelve with helping him develop the survival skills needed to deal with insurance companies. He lives with his family in Kentfield, California.

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Phaedra Fisher visited Russia back in 1994, and witnessed the privatization and inflation firsthand. Her book, Vodka Diplomacy, explains her experience and life in Russia as several events unfolded.

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Teeka Tiwari is Editor of "Mega Trends" at the Palm Beach Letter. He recently made a prediction for an event that will likely be 1.4 times bigger than the events of 07-08. He joins the show to explain in what way it will be bigger than the crash of 08?


Tiwari discusses what his "red flag" list is and shares some of names from it.


Teeka Tiwari epitomizes the American Dream. He came to the United States from England at sixteen with just $150 in his pocket and the clothes on his back. By eighteen, Teeka had become the youngest employee at Lehman Brothers. Two years later, he shattered convention by becoming the youngest Vice President in the history of Shearson Lehman. By the time he was 23 Teeka had made and lost a million dollars. At 27, he was a millionaire several times over.  


In June 2005, Teeka co-founded Tycoon Publishing and created the trading service, Point & Profit. The service made his wealth-building acumen available to the average individual investor for the first time.  


Since then, Teeka has been developing and perfecting the ETF Master Trader System, an interactive education program that teaches a complete Sector Trading investment methodology and gives ordinary investors the confidence to master the markets using Exchange Traded Funds.  


In June 2008, Teeka launched Sector Hunter, the World's first fully-automated ETF trading technology, providing individual investors with an institutional quality tool that identifies big money moves in 46 narrow sector groups and selects ETFs and stocks best positioned to profit from the move.  


Teeka is a regular contributor to FOX Business Network and has appeared on FOX News Channel, The Daily Show with Jon Stewart and international television networks. He manages a hedge-fund which is closed to new investors.


Teeka Tiwari has prepared a SPECIAL video for all listeners. He explains why “safe” investors may lose everything within the next six months.


Visit to find out for more. 




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Martin Armstrong is the former chairman of Princeton Economics International Ltd. He is best known for his economic predictions based on the Economic Confidence Model, which he developed.

In September 1999, Armstrong faced prosecution by the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Commodity Futures Trading Commission for fraud. During the trial, Armstrong was imprisoned for over seven years for civil contempt of court, one of the longest-running cases of civil contempt in American legal history.[1] In August 2006, Armstrong pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to commit fraud, and began a five-year sentence.


Armstrong is the developer of the Economic Confidence Model based on business cyclesHe is known for claiming to have predicted the crash of 1987 to the very day.[4] Using his theory that boom-bust cycles occur once every 3,141 days (the number pi multiplied by 1000), Armstrong claimed in 1999 to have predicted the Nikkei's collapse in 1989 and Russia's financial collapse in 1998.

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Meet The Masters is a once a year event hosted by Jason Hartman. Over the course of two days, there are speakers that discuss the local markets, real estate taxes, and finance. In this episode, we are playing a segment from the lender panel. You will hear from our 3 preferred lenders about getting loans in today's real estate market.

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Peter Shallard is owner of The Shrink for Entrepreneurs. As a renowned business psychology expert and therapist gone renegade, he works with all types of entrepreneurs around the globe as these people strive to reach greater goals of wealth, freedom and social impact.

That last one is important. He is obsessed with the pursuit of for-profit business that simultaneously makes a positive change in the world. Helping entrepreneurs create such businesses is his mission.

Through application of highly effective psychological models, he helps entrepreneurs like you master the psychology of reaching their goals of success faster. Better. More effectively, and with more impact and results. Together we’ll:

  • Rapidly re-program mental habits keeping you down and replace behavioural patterns that aren’t useful with highly effective ones
  • Shed light on what’s holding you back by providing insight and helping you make sense of people in new, meaningful ways
  • Create practical, achievable, measurable action steps and strategies that make a big, big difference to your bottom line
  • Implement powerful blueprints and formulas that create profit and build a career or business where extraordinary is mandatory
  • Ignite powerful motivation and consistent drive for long-term stamina so your success grows exponentially

His approach focuses on actionable psychological insight that creates practical, measurable results, making me an ideal choice for the busy entrepreneur who wants to fast-forward success – the kind of person who wants to rapidly leave roadblocks behind and make big things happen quickly.

Direct download: CW_380_-_The_Shrink_for_Entrepreneurs_with_Peter_Shallard.mp3
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Noah is a UC Berkeley graduate with degrees in Business and Economics and began his career at Intel as a marketing analyst in 2004.


In late 2005, Kagan joined Facebook as employee #30, where he served as product manager for eight months. During his time, he is credited with pioneering the Facebook status update and its mobile application with Mark Slee. After leaving Facebook, he then became Mint software employee #4 as the director of marketing in December 2006. At Mint, Kagan developed the initial marketing strategy for the launch of the website which now has over 7 million users.


After Mint, in June 2007, Kagan founded his first major company, KickFlip, a payment company for social games. Kickflip was the #1 Facebook app company of its time and would eventually become Gambit, which served over 40 million users, had $18 million in revenue, and was the #2 payments company for Facebook games.


In March 2010 Kagan founded AppSumo, a daily deals website for digitally distributed goods. He started the company after seeing there were no product bundle or daily deal sites for the growing web applications category. The core vision was to help solve distribution for startups and eventually all digital goods. The website was originally created in one weekend using an outsourced team from Pakistan for $60. Kagan said he created the company after seeing opportunity to combine the popular daily deals model with the growing web applications field. Kagan described it as a solution for distribution problems faced by startups.


In contrast to deal sites such as (Groupon and LivingSocial), AppSumo deals exclusively with digitally distributed goods. Initially, the deals offered were for digital tools and software. The deals then transitioned primarily to learning based products, teaching customers skills such as programming languages, project management, and hiring practices.


Today, the website has over 700,000 active subscribers and is particularly popular among the startup community.


You can learn more about Noah at

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 7:30am EDT

Greg Palast is the author of the New York Times bestsellers Billionaires & Ballot Bandits, Armed Madhouse , The Best Democracy Money Can Buy and the highly acclaimed Vultures' Picnic, named Book of the Year 2012 on BBC Newsnight Review.

His books have been translated into two dozen languages.

His brand new film of his documentary reports for BBC Newsnight and Democracy Now! is called Vultures and Vote Rustlers.

Palast is known for complex undercover investigations, spanning five continents, from the Arctic to the Amazon, from Caracas to California, using the skills he learned over two decades as a top investigator of corporate fraud.

Palast, who has led investigations of multi-billion-dollar frauds in the oil, nuclear, power and finance industries for governments on three continents, has an academic side: he is the author of Democracy and Regulation, a seminal treatise on energy corporations and government control, commissioned by the United Nations and based on his lectures at Cambridge University and the University of São Paulo.

In the 1970s, after earning a finance degree from the University of Chicago while studying under Milt Friedman and other "free trade luminaries," Palast went on to challenge their vision of a New Global Order. He did this while working for the United Steelworkers of America, the Enron workers' coalition in Latin America and consumer and environmental groups worldwide.

Palast is Patron of the Trinity College Philosophical Society, an honor previously held by Jonathan Swift and Oscar Wilde. His writings have won him the Financial Times David Thomas Prize. Palast was called"An American hero," said Martin Luther King III and the ultra famous political activist Noam Chomsky says Greg "Upsets all the right people."

Palast won the George Orwell Courage in Journalism Award for his BBC documentary, Bush Family Fortunes, where he exposed George W. Bush dodging the Vietnam War draft.

His accomplishments go on and on, so we encourage you to learn more about Greg at

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Jason Hartman starts episode 377 with a correspondent's report from Denver, Colorado regarding the house flipping market. Investment counselor Steve is consulting with three would-be home flippers who are looking to make quick cash but they discover many obstacles, not the least of which are razor thin profit margins, black mold, hard to source deals high short-term capital gains taxes.
In part two, Jason talks about the difference between an estimate and a quote when hiring contractors to repair or improve your investment properties. He recounts his Memphis, Tennessee property tour last week with a walk down Beale Street and a visit to Elvis Pressley's Graceland. Next up, a discussion of "Currency Wars" by James Rickards and some crowd sourcing to help with his mother's medical condition.
Be sure to take advantage of the "super early bird pricing" for Jason's Creating Wealth in Today's Economy Boot Camp at Hotel Irvine in beautiful Orange County California on June 28th at where you can also find information about private property tours. 

The #1 piece of advice for growing wealthy is…

Pretend the stock market doesn’t exist.

Seriously. That ship left the dock decades ago and won’t be back.
If you’re still swallowing the stock market line of lies, we hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you will probably die poor, an unfortunate statistic lumped in with the 99% who will never know the blessed relief of a life free from financial worry. Can you even imagine the sweet taste of financial freedom? The age old problem of too much month and not enough money really can disappear.

The truth is today’s stock market has devolved into a giant con game where an exclusive gang of unscrupulous slimeballs makes a very nice living picking the pockets of average investors like you.

Are you a glutton for punishment?

Do you enjoy getting slapped around by Big Stock Market, who takes your money like the schoolyard bully? It doesn’t have to be that way. If you learn nothing else this entire day, pay attention now:

“Thousands of people are quietly growing wealthy every year because they pulled their money OUT of the stock market and put it into what has been proven year in and year out to be history’s best investment.”

The Creating Wealth in Today’s Economy Bootcamp doesn’t even consider something a real investment unless it does the following:

• Expect at least a 20% to 30% annual ROI

• Allows you PROFIT from the economically debilitating effects of inflation

• Cuts the THIEVING middle-men out and allows direct investment

• Provides TRUE diversification

• Is the MOST tax favored asset in America

• Turns banks profit model against them to practically STEAL money using legal leverage

• So conservative your grandmother would love it
If you realize that the preceding six items are a good thing, you’re halfway to financial freedom already. The Creating Wealth in Today’s Economy Bootcamp is based on the proven premise that Wall Street is screwing the average American investor and it’s about time you got tired of it!

We’d like to introduce you to a gentleman by the name of Jason Hartman, Founder and CEO of Platinum Properties Network, and the driving force behind The Creating Wealth educational juggernaut.

In his late teens, Jason recognized the incredible profit potential of investing in rental properties. It’s practically a license to print money. Starting with little in the way of assets, Jason used a unique strategy he discovered over the course of hundreds of real estate deals, and became a millionaire before the age of 30.

How did he do it? The broad answer is rental property investments. If you’re interested in more specifics, that’s where The Creating Wealth in Today’s Economy Bootcamp comes in. In it, Jason reveals his entire process for creating impressive fortune.

“If you knew one educational event contained absolutely every piece of information you needed to grow rich…would you go?”

It’s true you can spend as much on real estate seminars as you want. Got $3,000 burning a hole in your pocket? There’s a seminar for that. How about $5,000? There’s a seminar for that too. Want to pay more? They’ll shamelessly lighten your wallet.
But for $297 you can purchase a ticket to The Creating Wealth in Today’s Economy Bootcamp and, over the course of a single day, learn exactly what you need to begin building the real estate investment portfolio that can switch your family’s financial mode to “highly profitable” for generations to come.

The Creating Wealth in Today’s Economy Bootcamp does not rely on tuition to make money. Yes, we have to charge something for the event but it is way, way below market rate. There are a few reasons for this.

1. We must cover the costs of facility rental, materials, and food. What kind of business would we be if we lost money hosting an event?

2. While well below what most seminars charge to get through the door, we do set the tuition high enough to keep out browsers. We only want attendees who are serious about changing their financial lives.

At The Creating Wealth in Today’s Economy Bootcamp, you’re going to learn exactly what steps to take to begin investing in rental properties the moment you dive into the content. This is an actionable, clearly presented blueprint, unlike the other guys, who are usually feeding you just enough bull to reel you directly into their up-sell.

We’re sorry but this event is jam-packed with education, not
bushy sales pitches.

We’d like to apologize up front if you are looking to attend a real estate educational event that spoon feeds you useless information and spends most of the time lauding the benefits of their newer, better and, wouldn’t you know it, more expensive seminar!

The Creating Wealth in Today’s Economy Bootcamp is all you need. The backbone of this learning event is a process called The Complete Solution for Real Estate Investors. Jason developed this approach to investing in real estate properties over more than two decades of closing deals in every market imaginable.

The dirty little secret is it’s not hard to do! The most difficult part for most people is simply to take action in the first place.
Here’s what you can expect from our Creating Wealth in Today’s Economy Bootcamp:

1. Nine hours worth of intensive real estate learning. No esoteric theory. This is a simple, repeatable, conservative approach that can make you VERY wealthy.

2. How to properly use leverage to reach financial independence. You might quit your job in as little as seven years and never work again.

3. How to ignore the financial “guru” chatter and select properties and markets that make financial sense the day you buy them.

4. How to avoid negative cash flow.

5. Hands on property selection session.

6. You own your first property. Now what do you do? No worries. We’ll tell you.

A new feature with The Creating Wealth in Today’s Economy Bootcamp is property analysis. Jason and his team of investment experts will include a free, , personal, one-on-one property analysis of any property you choose. We want you to take the tools you learn at this event and put them into action! We’ll show you how we decide whether or not a property is a good buy. You can even bring in outside properties you’re interested in and we’ll show you how to evaluate its money-making potential.

Perhaps the benefits of using The Creating Wealth in Today’s Economy Bootcamp is to push your financial life into high gear can best be told by previous attendees.

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Chris Mayer is the Managing Editor of Agora Financial and Editor of the Capital and Crisis publication. 


Mayer breaks down the unemployment numbers for us and whether it is actually getting better. 


He then discusses the benefits of traveling around the world to get an investment story. Given the instability in the emerging markets, Mayer assesses whether this is the beginning of the next global financial storm. 


Chris has prepared a SPECIAL video for our listeners. He shares SEVEN incredibly safe stocks that you should buy now. Chris believes these stocks will multiply your wealth 20 times over. Visit to find out what these companies are. 



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Doug Casey is the Founder & Chairman of Casey Research and author of the new book, "Right on the Money: Doug Casey on Economics, Investing, and the Ways of the Real World."


Casey gives his outlook on gold stocks. He then shares the pros and cons of dividend-paying, large cap stocks. 


Overall, he thinks 2014 will turn into a bad year for the economy and stocks.


Visit Casey Research at


Doug Casey is the Chairman at Casey Research, LLC. He is a highly respected author, publisher, and professional investor. Mr. Casey wrote the book on profiting from periods of economic turmoil. His book "Crisis Investing" spent multiple weeks as number one on the New York Times bestseller list and became the best-selling financial book of 1980 surpassing big-caliber names. Mr. Casey then broke the record with his next book, "Strategic Investing", by receiving the largest advance ever paid for a financial book at the time. His book "The International Man" was the most sold book in the history of Rhodesia. 


Mr. Casey has been a featured guest on hundreds of radio and television shows, including David Letterman, Merv Griffin, Charlie Rose, Phil Donahue, Regis Philbin, Maury Povich, NBC News, and CNN and has been the topic of numerous features in periodicals such as Time, Forbes, People, and the Washington Post. He has written newsletters and alert services for sophisticated investors for over 28 years. 


In addition to having served as a Trustee on the Board of Governors of Washington College and Northwoods University, Mr. Casey has been a Director and Advisor to nine different financial corporations. He is widely respected as one of the preeminent authorities on rational speculation especially in the high-potential natural resource sector. 


Mr. Casey graduated from Georgetown University in 1968.

Direct download: CW_375_-_Right_on_the_Money_with_Doug_Casey.mp3
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Join Jason Hartman on episode 374 as he discusses a wide variety of things. First, a recap of the last several episodes with commentary on asset protection, Bitcoin, Michael Lewis and longevity. Next, Jason outlines the upcoming episodes including:


375 Doug Casey

376 Chris Mayer - Managing Editor of Agora Financial

377 Jason with team member

378 Greg Palast - Banksters, Wall Street

379 Noah Kagan - Business, Marketing, etc

380 Peter Shallard - The Shrink for Entrepreneurs 


We review the following new topics:


France bans work e-mails after 6 PM

Where's the (cheap) beef? US beef prices soar

Team clones stem cells from 75-year-olds skin

And... What this means to us, as investors.

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Rodney Johnson is President and Editor of Dent Research. He joins the show to explain why gold will fall below $800.


Johnson then discusses whether the US economy is slowing. He also shares how investors can build streams of income instead of relying on equity markets.


Visit Dent Research at


Rodney Johnson works closely with Harry Dent to study how people spend their money as they go through predictable stages of life, how that spending drives our economy and how you can use this information to invest successfully in any market.  


Rodney began his career in financial services on Wall Street in the 1980s with Thomson McKinnon and then Prudential Securities. He started working on projects with Harry in the mid-1990s. He’s a regular guest on several radio programs such as America’s Wealth Management, Savvy Investor Radio, and has been featured on CNBC, Fox News and Fox Business’s “America’s Nightly Scorecard, where he discusses economic trends ranging from the price of oil to the direction of the U.S. economy.  


He holds degrees from Georgetown University and Southern Methodist University.

Direct download: CW_373_-_Gold_Prices_with_Dent_Research_editor_Rodney_Johnson.mp3
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Patrick Byrne is the Chairman & CEO of He joins the show to discuss why he made the decision to add Bitcoin as a payment form for


This interview is action-packed with Bitcoin content. Byrne explains how and when he first heard about Bitcoin and what his reaction was. He shares his thoughts on the currency nature of Bitcoin as well as the transaction part. 


Byrne himself doesn't own Bitcoin. He discusses why someone with all his connections wasn't one of the first buyers.


Byrne thinks the new cryptocurrency space will destroy central banking and give rise to a new kind of ecosystem. reported more than $130K in Bitcoin sales in 24 hours, and more than $1 million in sales since they started accepting Bitcoin in January. Byrne thinks more retailers will follow suit.


Visit at

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A best-selling author, speaker and a member of an elite group of "Rich Dad's" advisors, hand selected by author Robert Kiyosaki, Garrett speaks to investors and entrepreneurs on a variety of topics including asset protection, liability limitation, wealth creation, as well as various business and real estate issues. As an advisor for Robert Kiyosaki, Garrett has authored Own Your Own Corporation.

Garrett's books provide an accessible source of information for building your own success. A member of the State Bars of Nevada and California, as well as the American Bar Association, Garrett attended Colorado College and the University of California at Berkeley where he received a B.S. in Business Administration in 1975. In 1978, he graduated with a J.D. from University of California's Hastings College of Law in San Francisco.

Beyond his desire to educate people and business in wealth protection and growth, Garrett serves on the boards of the American Baseball Foundation, located in Birmingham, Alabama and the Nevada-based Sierra Kids Foundation.

Direct download: CW_371_-_Rich_Dad_Attorney_Garrett_Sutton_on_Asset_Protection_1.mp3
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In this fascinating two-part episode, Jason Hartman talks about Michael Lewis's new book "Flash Boys" and comments the on the excellent CBS 60 Minutes segment discussing high-frequency trading and how the stock market, according to Michael Lewis and many other experts, is rigged.


In part two, Jason interviews Dr. Rush from Cenegenics as they discuss the latest breakthroughs in health and longevity science. This interview was originally recorded for Jason's new "Longevity Show" which will launch soon but he wanted to share it in this episode so you can benefit from the ideas right away. Visit for details. Many experts believe that we are on the verge of major breakthroughs when it comes to increasing lifespan and this has wide ranging implications for, not only our own lives and well-being, but the economy, the real estate market, commodities consumption, wealth creation, government entitlement programs like Social Security and Obamacare but also the outlook for inflation and investing to grow our wealth with income property.

Direct download: CW_370_-_Michael_Lewis__Stock_Market_Rigged__Cenegenics_on_Longevity.mp3
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Craig R. Smith is the Chairman of Swiss America and author of, "The Great Withdrawal: How the Progressives' 100-Year Debasement of America and the Dollar Ends. He joins the show to give good examples of progressives today. 


Smith explains how important the next Election cycle is to the future of the world. He thinks this can be the end of Progressivism if the Democrats keep getting their way. 


The conversation then shifts to how American citizens can decentralize and diversify their lives to survive and prosper. Smith shares some ways that people can protect themselves and their families in today's shaky, vulnerable economy. 


Find out more about Craig Smith at Buy gold from him at

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 12:24pm EDT

Po Bronson is a former Silicon Valley journalist for TIME, the New York Times, and Wired. He was the creator of the $treet, a television show on FOX that starred Jennifer Connelly, and author of "TOP DOG: The Science of Winning and Losing."


Bronson tries to distill why Wall Street promotes male analysts, even though women do a better job. He shares his intuitions on how a woman will be successful in business. 


Bronson then tries to answer these quirky business-related questions:


- Why is home field advantage just as relevant in diplomacy and deal-making as it is in sports?

- How can the shape of entrepreneurs' hands be just as revealing as their business plans?

- What does Italy's domination of the packaging business have in common with the Harvard-Yale football rivalry?


The conversation then finishes with sociology as Bronson helps explain why younger siblings are more competitive than first-borns. He thinks that parents praising their children affects their competitiveness.


Find out more about Po Bronson at


Po Bronson has built a career both as a successful novelist and as a prominent writer of narrative nonfiction. He has published six books, and he has written for television, magazines, and newspapers, including The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal, and for National Public Radio's Morning Edition.  


Po Bronson's book of social documentary, "What Should I Do With My Life?", was a #1 New York Times bestseller and remained in the Top 10 for nine months. His first novel, "Bombardiers," was a #1 bestseller in the United Kingdom. His books have been translated into 19 languages. 

Direct download: CW_368_-_The_Science_of_Winning_and_Losing_with_Po_Bronson.mp3
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In this episode, you'll hear from one of our CPA's that spoke at the January 2014 Meet The Masters event.

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 7:00am EDT

Join Jason Hartman as he discusses opening the books on government spending and things, like geography, age, pedigree, etc. that are less meaningful than ever before in history. All of these items have broad implications economically, socially and for real estate investors.


Did you know that there are over 3,000 the look bureaucrats in Illinois who earn more than every single governor in the United States? Some of these government officials are on the take with over 25 buckets of income funded by taxpayers. As Jason talks with the founder of www.OpenThe you will learn about the largest exposé ever on government spending with over one billion line items of government tracked and accounted for in detail. Adam Andrzejewski helps us find every dime of government spending as we need a nationwide rallying cry for transparency in government.

Direct download: cw-366-AdamAndrzejewski.mp3
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Tom is an internationally acclaimed Internet Marketing expert and full time professional speaker. He has been featured on major news media worldwide including the Canadian Broadcast Network, The Australian Broadcast Network, Associated Press, The Tokyo Today Show. His resume also boasts hundreds of radio, television and print appearances throughout the United States.


Tom will tell you that he is no "techie," but has a very simple "Three Prong Attack" on Internet marketing, which is extremely simple and easy to understand. He teaches consistent high profit / low overhead Internet sales techniques that have made him an Internet Multi Millionaire in a very short period of time.


Currently Tom has taken on the role of consumer advocate where he has a Television show and Documentary in development to try to clean up the seminar industry where unsavory seminar speakers are pilfering people for enormous amounts of money. 


Also White Wing Entertainment is in production of a documentary about Tom's life called "The American Entrepreneur". 


Tom can be found online at

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 11:52am EDT

Join Jason Hartman as he discusses cash flow, real appreciation and geographic diversification as it applies to his, not Albert Einstein's, theory of real estate relativity. You'll hear a valuable comparison of a typical Santa Ana, California property with a Birmingham, Alabama and an Atlanta, Georgia property. How do they stack up? Jason will lead you through an in-depth look at rent-to-value ratios (RV Ratio), historical appreciation rates of linear and cyclical markets, as well as hybrid linear/cyclical markets. This comparison may surprise you in several ways. What's better A $455,000 house that rents for $2,500 per month to six people? Or several $52,000 houses that rent for $700 per month? The same concept can be applied to large multi family apartment complexes and across every geographic market or metropolitan statistical area (MSA). 


Next up, Jason talks to one of his lenders about reverse mortgages, a growing trend with broader implications on the real estate market and the economy as a whole. Learn in the blog, property and member sections.

Direct download: cw-364-ReverseMortgages.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 2:47pm EDT

"The Cow Guy" Scott Shellady is the Senior Vice President of Derivatives at the Trean Group. He joins the show to discuss where people should start when investing in tangible assets.


Shellady believes in SWAGER for investing, standing for Silver, Wine, Art, Gold, Energy and Real Estate. He thinks SWAGER investments are a good choice for current investors. 


The topic then shifts to how boomers can prepare for retirement. Shellady explains the most common mistakes baby boomers make with their finances and what they do if they were laid off or fired during the recession to protect their retirement.


Visit the Trean Group at

Direct download: cw-363-ScottShellady.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 6:58pm EDT

Jason Hartman discusses the possibility of dollar collapse, USA reserve currency loss and compares investment returns in good old dependable single family home with larger apartment/multi-family investments. This is a recent interview from the Financial Survival Network. 

Direct download: cw-362-KerryLutz.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 11:36am EDT

Listen in as Jason Hartman discusses The Next 10 Commandments of Successful Investing. This keynote speech was taped live at the opening of our 2013 Meet the Masters of Income Property Investing Event at the Hyatt Regency in Irvine, California. With all deference to the Big Guy upstairs, when it comes to income property investing, Jason Hartman realized that 10 commandments simply isn’t enough to cover such an important topic. Not when creating financial independence is at stake.


In order to get the most out of the critical wealth creation information provided in this podcast, it might help some listeners to quickly review Jason’s original 10 Commandments of Successful Investing:


1. Thou shalt become educated: Knowledge is a powerful tool. Do your due diligence and become your own best advisor.


2. Thou shalt have a professional investment counselor: Only invest with investment professionals who stay with you for the long term. Advisors should buy for themselves what they sell, putting their money where their mouth is, and get paid for producing results rather than simply for advice.


3. Thou shalt maintain control: Never leave your financial future in the hands of incompetent, unethical, or greedy brokerage houses, fund managers or corporations. Always be a direct investor.


4. Thou shalt use prudent financial planning techniques: Always invest with your goals in mind (retirement, financial freedom, creating wealth) and abide by your risk tolerance and investing style.


5. Thou shalt not gamble: Be a prudent, long-term value investor, never a get-rich-quick gambler, speculator, or flipper. Invest only in properties that make good financial sense the day you buy them.


6. Thou shalt diversify: reduce risk and maximize returns by investing in several areas, as every market is different.


7. Thou shalt be Area Agnostic™: Only invest with an advisor who is not partial to any one area or investment to avoid a conflict of interest. Don’t fall in love with your home geographical area!


8. Thou shalt borrow to maximize leverage and accelerate wealth creation: Use as much borrowed money and as little of your own money as possible as long as the borrowed money can be repaid by the tenant. Let other people’s money work for you, reduce your risk, and make you wealthy.


9. Thou shalt only invest where there is universal need: No one needs stocks, bonds, or gold but everyone needs a place to live, and with growing affluence around the world, consumption of raw materials will continue to cause upward price pressure on improved real estate.


10. Thou shalt invest only in tax-favored assets: Non-cash write-offs and deductions are money in your pocket and income property offers the best of both.

Direct download: cw-361-Next10Commandmentsa.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 1:40pm EDT

Dr. Kelly McGonigal is a health psychologist at Stanford University and author of, "THE WILLPOWER INSTINCT: How Self-Control Works, Why It Matters, and What You Can Do To Get More of It." 


Dr. McGonigal teaches one of the most popular courses at Stanford University called, “The Science of Willpower.” She has helped hundreds of students achieve their goals through the idea of willpower. She believes stress should be welcomed in people's lives, thus causing greater willpower.


Dr. McGonigal breaks down the science behind why we give in to temptation and how we can find the strength to resist.


Find out more about Dr. Kelly McGonigal at


Kelly McGonigal, PhD, is a health psychologist and lecturer at Stanford University, and a leading expert in the new field of “science-help.” She is passionate about translating cutting-edge research from psychology, neuroscience, and medicine into practical strategies for health, happiness, and personal success.  


Her most recent book, The Willpower Instinct: How Self-Control Works, Why It Matters, and What You Can Do to Get More of It (Penguin 2012), explores the latest research on motivation, temptation, and procrastination, as well as what it takes to transform habits, persevere at challenges, and make a successful change. Her audio series The Neuroscience of Change (Sounds True 2012) weaves the newest findings of science with Eastern contemplative wisdom to give listeners a revolutionary process for personal transformation. She is also the author of Yoga for Pain Relief: Simple Practices to Calm Your Mind and Heal Your Pain (New Harbinger, 2009), which translates recent advances in neuroscience and medicine into mind-body strategies for relieving chronic pain, stress, depression, and anxiety.  


She teaches for a wide range of programs at Stanford University, including the Stanford Center for Compassion and Altruism Research and Education, the Graduate School of Business, and the School of Medicine’s Health Improvement Program. She has received a number of teaching awards for her undergraduate psychology courses, including Stanford University’s highest teaching honor, the Walter J. Gores award. Her popular public courses through Stanford’s Continuing Studies program—including the Science of Willpower and the Science of Compassion—demonstrate the applications of psychological science to personal health and happiness, as well as organizational success and social change. Through a wide range of conferences, workshops, university-affiliated programs, and consulting, Dr. McGonigal also provides continuing education and training to executives, teachers, healthcare providers, and other professionals.  


Her psychology research (on compassion, mindfulness, and emotion regulation) has been published in The Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, Motivation and Emotion, The International Journal of Psychiatry in Medicine, and The Journal of Happiness Studies. From 2005-2012, Dr. McGonigal served as the Editor in Chief of the International Journal of Yoga Therapy, a peer-reviewed journal of mind-body research, healthcare policy, and clinical practice. A long-time practitioner of yoga and meditation, Dr. McGonigal is a founding member of the Yoga Service Council and serves on the advisory boards of several non-profit organizations bringing yoga and meditation to underserved and at-risk populations, including Yoga Bear (providing yoga in hospitals nationwide and to cancer survivors and their caregivers) and The Art of Yoga Project (brining yoga into juvenile detention facilities in the San Francisco Bay Area).  


Dr. McGonigal’s work has been covered widely by the media, including the CBS Evening News, U.S. News and World Report,, O! The Oprah Magazine, Time magazine, USA Today, and the American Psychological Association’s Monitor on Psychology. She is also a frequent source of expert advice and commentary for media outlets such as the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times,, Web MD, Time, Fitness, Women’s Health, and more. In 2010, Forbes named her one of the 20 most inspiring women to follow on Twitter. In 2012, she teamed up with the Oprah Winfrey Network and Superbetter Labs to create an online game that would spread the benefits of gratitude to millions of people worldwide.  


Dr. McGonigal received her PhD in psychology from Stanford University, with a concentration in humanistic medicine. She received a B.A. in Psychology and a B.S. in Mass Communication from Boston University.  


She is also passionate about the benefits of physical exercise and has been certified as a group fitness instructor since 2000. In her free time, she continues to teach group fitness classes – because sometimes moving, breathing, and sweating is the best thing you can do to create health, joy, and resilience.

Direct download: cw-360-KellyMcGonigal.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 5:03pm EDT

Jason talks with Sara about the Meet the Masters weekend event. Next, Jason interviews Ken Wilson.


Ken Wilson is President of the Appraisal Institute. He joins the show to discuss what the Appraisal Institute has done to help appraisers analyze market trends and value. 


The topic then shifts to real estate, where Wilson explain different market types and how one can analyze market cycles.


Visit the Appraisal Institute at


Ken P. Wilson, MAI, SRA, of Plano, Texas, is the 2014 president of the Appraisal Institute. He was the organization’s president-elect in 2013. He will serve as immediate past president in 2015. He serves this year as chair of the organization’s Executive Committee and chairs its policy-setting Board of Directors.


Wilson has been involved in the real estate appraisal profession for 35 years. Following a 12-year career with two national appraisal firms, he started his own valuation and consultation firm, Wilson Realty Advisors, based in Dallas.

Direct download: cw-359-KenWilson.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 5:42pm EDT

Bill Ayers is the co-founder of the Weather Underground and founder of the Small Schools Workshop and the Center for Youth and Society. He's the author of the new book, "PUBLIC ENEMY: Confessions of an American Dissident."


Ayers joins the show to discuss how we can rebuild inner city public school. He proposes an Occupy Our Schools movement to get government to put more resources into lower education. 


Ayers has been a controversial figure for most of his life. He explains why he was denied emeritus status at University of Illinois at Chicago. He's very well-connected in the Chicago and talks about the continuing gun violence despite more gun control laws.


Ayers finishes the interview talking about President Obama, his relationship with him, and why he doesn't support him.


Find out more about Bill Ayers at

Direct download: cw-358-BillAyers.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:40pm EDT

Join Jason Hartman on Episode #359 of The Creating Wealth Show as he visits with Noam Chomsky, one of the best known philosophical voices of our time. The left-leaning Chomsky aligns himself ideologically with the anarcho-syndicalism and libertarian-socialism movements. Often referred to as the “Father of Modern Linguistics,” Mr. Chomsky is the author of more than 100 books and has spent most of his career at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), where he is currently Professor Emeritus. In a 2005 poll he was voted the “World’s Top Public Intellectual.”


If you’re wondering exactly what those high-falutin’ words mean about Mr. Chomsky’s beliefs, here are the short versions.


Anarcho-syndicalism: The end goal of anarcho-syndicalism is to abolish the wage system, regarding it as a form of slavery. With a focus on the labour movement, this ideological philosophy advocates direct action rather than intervention of third parties like politicians, bureaucrats, and arbitrators. Adherents to this belief regard the state as a profoundly anti-worker institution, but also don’t believe there can ever be any kind of workers’ state because power always corrupts. If this sounds like an anarchist’s way of thinking, it is.


Libertarian-socialism: Chomsky’s basic belief in anarchism is further found in the libertarian-socialism ideal that it is necessary to abolish the authoritarian institutions that control the means of production, thus subordinating the majority to the will of the owning class or political or economic elite. The ultimate goal here is a decentralized form of direct democracy of the kind found in citizens’ assemblies, trade unions, or workers’ councils.


Whether you agree or disagree with the man’s point of view is beside the point. A conversation with Noam Chomsky is enlightening and disturbing at the same time. What cannot be denied is the man’s global influence over the past six decades. Ladies and gentleman, you’re in for a treat. Pull up a chair, grab a beverage, and lend your ear to one of the true philosophical giants of our time.



Noam Chomsky’s Website (

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Direct download: cw-357-NoamChomsky.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 12:29pm EDT

Famed liberal-turned-libertarian journalist, John Stossel, is Jason Hartman's guest on The Creating Wealth Show, Episode #356. The interview opens on the topic of Stossel's third book, "No, They Can't: Why Government Fails - But Individuals Succeed." From there, Jason and John embark upon a no holds barred barred back and forth about a variety of current political topics

John Stossel has been the Host of "Stossel," seen Thursdays at 9 p.m. ET on the Fox Business Network (FBN) since 2009. This weekly program covers current consumer issues with Stossel's trademark libertarian viewpoint. He can also be seen as a regular guest on the Fox News Network, which is FBN's flagship station and the current #1 Cable News network in the U.S.

Direct download: cw-356-JohnStossel.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 11:33am EDT

Jason talks with Jeff Desich, who is the CEO of Equity Trust, about how to use your self-direct IRA. Jeff's company specializes in helping clients setup their self-direct IRA, as well as maintain it.

Direct download: cw-355-JeffDesich.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 7:00am EDT

Join host Jason Hartman and, not one, but TWO special guests on episode #354 of The Creating Wealth Show. First up is Jason’s mom, who returns to the show for the third time (by popular demand) to discuss the idea of grit when it comes to life in general and income property investing in specific. The question they bat around is “What makes for a successful property investor and successful human being, and what does grit mean anyway?” You won’t want to miss her story about a recent eviction she undertook on a California property tenant, nor how her life’s passion of living in a mansion with columns came to pass.


Following his mom’s segment, Jason welcomes credit repair expert, Steve Paige, to the telephone. Steve has logged almost three decades in the trenches in helping consumers understand the fact, fiction, and misconceptions that abound in the credit report score industry. Steve is, by far, the nation's leading credit pathologist. He founded three of the nation's largest credit repair firms and, in the process, revolutionized the approach to consumer credit issues by focusing on re-scoring techniques rather than credit report manipulation and repair, the results of which produce far greater benefits— for less money.


Listen in as Steve explodes some of the myths that could be decimating your ability to obtain a loan right now.


In This Episode (with Jason’s mom):

  • How Jason’s mom used grit to get rid of all her property managers and do the work herself
  • The quick and easy way to evict a tenant in California  
  • The danger of finding success too early in life
  • The TED video that exposes the truth about IQ and learning


In This Episode (with Steve Paige):

  • Why you should cover your wallet and run from a credit repair company that wants to write letters to bureaus on your behalf
  • The RIGHT way to get your annual credit reports
  • How to make the credit bureaus respond to your challenges
  • Only 2% of the general public can name this
  • How banks and credit card companies are exploiting you
  • The one critical website to know for credit repair
Direct download: cw-354-StevePaige.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:29pm EDT

John McAfee is in the news, as he is trying to create an NSA-proof gadget used for private internet browsing, called "Decentral." [read more] McAfee, original creator of McAfee Antivirus software was born in the United Kingdom and raised in Salem, Virginia, United States


McAfee was employed as a programmer by NASA's Institute for Space Studies in New York City from 1968 to 1970. From there he went to Univac as a software designer and later to Xerox. as an operating system architect. In 1978 he joined Computer Sciences Corporation as a software consultant. Later, while employed by Lockheed in the 1980s, McAfee received a copy of the Pakistani Brain computer virus and began developing software to combat viruses.


In 1987 McAfee founded McAfee Associates, a computer anti-virus company. He was the first to distribute anti-virus software using the shareware business model. In 1989, he quit Lockheed and began working full-time at McAfee Associates, which he initially operated from his home in Santa Clara, California.The company was incorporated in Delaware in 1992, and McAfee resigned from the company in 1994. Two years after McAfee Associates went public, McAfee sold his remaining stake in the company.


Network Associates was formed in 1997 as a merger of McAfee Associates and Network General. This company later became Network Associates, a name it retained for seven years until it was renamed McAfee. Now a subsidiary of Intel corporation, McAfee remains today as one of the largest anti-virus companies in the world.


Other business ventures that he founded included Tribal Voice, which developed one of the first instant messaging programs, PowWow. In 2000, John McAfee invested in and joined the board of directors of Zone Labs, makers of firewall software, prior to its acquisition by Check Point Software in 2003.


In August 2009, The New York Times reported that McAfee's personal fortune had declined to $4 million from a peak of $100 million, the effect of the global financial crisis and recession on his investments.

Beginning in February 2010, McAfee started a new venture in the field of bacterial quorum sensing. His company QuorumEx has its headquarters in Belize and is working towards producing commercial all natural antibiotics based on anti-quorum sensing technology. In 2013 McAfee started a new company, Future Tense Central, to produce a secure computer network device called the D-Central.

Direct download: cw-353-JohnMcAfee.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 2:35pm EDT

Harry Dent is Editor of the FREE newsletter "Survive and Prosper." His most recent book entitled "The Great Depression Ahead" explains "The Perfect Storm" as peak oil prices collide with peaking generational spending trends by 2010. More importantly, he shows how the economy’s life cycle will affect life, business, and investment strategies throughout a person’s lifetime, including career opportunities and children’s educational costs. 


Get more of Harry Dent 6 days a week for free here. Find out more about Harry Dent at

Direct download: cw-352-HarryDent.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 10:55am EDT

Kevin Armstrong is the former Chairman of the ANZ Group's Regional Investment Committee and former chief investment officer for ANZ Group's private bank. He's the author of, "BULLS, BIRDIES, BOGEYS & BEARS: The Remarkable & Revealing Relationship Between Golf & Investment Markets."


Armstrong explains how the rises and falls in the fortunes of professional golfers, and the emergence and decline of major stars such as Jack Nicklaus and Tiger Woods, reflected the ebb and flow of the stock market. 


The answer provides a unique and powerful connection between golf and investment markets. The ‘pulses’ of two totally separate activities, golf and investing, have been so synchronized and connected, not just in modern times, but throughout history, and in a manner not found in any other sport? 

Direct download: cw-351-KevinArmstrong.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 8:40pm EDT

On this 10th show, Jason Hartman interviews author and leadership expert, Doug Conant on the topic of leadership models. In Doug’s book, Touch Points: Creating Powerful Leadership Connections in the Smallest of Moments, co-authored with Mette Norgaard, the small daily interactions that many view as interruptions are described as the greatest leadership opportunities in business, or touch points. These moments can be used as a method to promote the company’s values, purposes and agenda, while bringing about higher employee engagement and winning in the marketplace through improved growth. Touch points involve using the head, heart and hands to connect with and transform employees through listening, understanding and helping people advance their interactions in a significantly more effective way. Doug explains the “contribution profile,” which is asking, “How can I help?”  Listen at: for details.


Practitioner Douglas R. Conant delivers a critical and transformative message for today’s times: Anyone, anywhere, can expand their influence and improve their results. Appointed President and CEO of Campbell Soup Company in 2001, he was the 11th leader in this iconic company’s 140-year history. Under Conant’s leadership, Campbell reversed a precipitous decline in market value and employee engagement — with much recognition since, including the prestigious 2010 Catalyst Award.


A key driver is Campbell’s success model: Winning in the workplace, winning in the marketplace, and winning in the community and doing it all with integrity. Conant joined the company with 25 years of experience with three of the world’s top food companies — General Mills, Kraft, and Nabisco. A native of Chicago, he earned his BA degree from Northwestern and his NBA from the Kellogg School of Management. Conant’s new book with co-author Mette Norgaard, available now, is TouchPoints: Creating Powerful Leadership Connections in the Smallest of Moments (Jossey-Bass). More on TouchPoints and leadership models can be found

Direct download: cw-350-DougConant.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 7:00am EDT

Everte Farnell is President at 9 World's Publishing, Inc. and a freelance copywriter. He joins the show to share some secrets to copywriting and whether success within the publishing industry is dependent solely on copywriting.


He also tells us about the hedge fund advertising regulations and whether hedge fund advertising makes it easier to defraud the public.


Find out more about Everte Farnell at

Direct download: cw-349-EverteFarnell.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 9:41pm EDT

Jonathan Bender is a former NBA player turned serial entrepreneur, having founded The Jonathan Bender Foundation. He joins the podcast to tell us about his different businesses and their models. 


Bender also explains what got him interested in making money on his own through hard work, which required a different skill-set from sports. He describes how athletics can translate to power in business and how ordinary people can launch second careers.


Bender is one of the rare social entrepreneurs who makes money and does good at the same time. He explains this new practice and how it's a win-win situation for all.


Find out more about Jonathan Bender at Visit the Jonathan Bender Foundation


Direct download: cw-348-JonathanBender.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:02pm EDT

Nick Bilton is the New York Times technology and business columnist and lead reporter for the Bits Blog. He's the author of, "Hatching Twitter: A True Story of Money, Power, Friendship and Betrayal."


Bilton tells us about the betrayed friendships and high-stakes power struggles as Twitter's four founders—Biz Stone, Evan Williams, Jack Dorsey, and Noah Glass—went from everyday engineers to overnight celebrities. 


He explains the zeitgeist and global influence of Twitter, which has been used to help overthrow governments in the Middle East and disrupt the very fabric of the way people communicate. 


He also shares a story of Al Gore getting drunk and trying to buy Twitter in 2009. 


Given Twitter's recent IPO, Bilton describes how effective Twitter really is in marketing, branding, and sales conversion.


Find out more about Nick Bilton at

Direct download: cw-347-NickBilton.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 11:58am EDT

On this show, Jason and Steve discuss property pricing, how to avoid bad areas, and a market update.

Direct download: cw-346-JasonandSteve.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 11:22am EDT

Karen Hudes studied law at Yale Law School and economics at the University of Amsterdam. She worked in the US Export Import Bank of the US from 1980-1985 and in the Legal Department of the World Bank from 1986-2007. She established the Non Governmental Organization Committee of the International Law Section of the American Bar Association and the Committee on Multilateralism and the Accountability of International Organizations of the American Branch of the International Law Association.


In 1999 Karen reported the corrupt take-over of the second largest bank in the Philippines. The Bank’s Country Director in the Philippines reassigned Karen when she asked him to sign a letter warning the Philippines’ government that the Bank could not disburse its loan. Two days after informing the Board’s Audit Committee of the cover-up in the Philippines, Karen was reprimanded and placed on probation. The Chair of the World Bank’s Audit Committee requested an inquiry into the World Bank’s Institutional Integrity Department. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations followed up with three letters to the World Bank. The World Bank forged documents and fired Karen in contempt of Congress.


In 2007 Karen advised the US Treasury Department and US Congress that the US would lose its right to appoint the President of the World Bank if the current American President of the World Bank did not play by the rules. The 66 year old Gentlemen’s Agreement that Europe would appoint the Managing Director of the IMF and US would appoint the World Bank President ended in 2010.

Direct download: cw-345-KarenHudes.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:07pm EDT

Benjamin Ginsberg is the David Bernstein Professor of Political Science and Chair of the Center for Advanced Governmental Studies at Johns Hopkins University. The rising cost of education is largely due to the rising cost of college administrations. Employment of academic administrators has increased 60 percent from 1993 to 2009. 


Ginsberg has proposed several ideas to curb education costs. He shares them on the podcast. Among his proposals: cutting tenure. He also explains how higher education plans differ from business or military strategies.


Benjamin Ginsberg is a libertarian political scientist and professor at Johns Hopkins University who is notable for his criticism of American politics in which citizens have become "marginalized as political actors" and political parties weakened while state power has grown. His assessment of the futility of voting along with his notion that the public has an illusion of control over government has caused controversy, and sometimes his explanations have been criticized. 


Find out more about the Johns Hopkins political science department at

Direct download: cw-344-BenGinsberg.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:45pm EDT

Tom Kraeutler is the President of Money Pit Media and Co-host of "The Money Pit," the nation's largest nationally syndicated home improvement radio program. He is a home improvement expert. 


In a rapidly improving housing market, Kraeutler discusses some home improvements we can make, which will pay for themselves in resale value. This would include upgrading home efficiency and performance. 


Kraeutler also shares some energy and water-saving products that perform:


1) Indoor Environment Control – Customize your interior environment with innovative new filters that are built in to plumbing and HVAC systems.

2) New Solutions for the Home & Garden – New hose nozzle technology gives you the pressure of a power washer and the mist of a sprinkler with a twist of a knob.

3) Innovative “Dumpster” - Comes to your house in a tiny box and expands to 1000 times its original size.  Once you are ready to use it, you pop it open and fill it up.  When it is full, you call for pickup.

4) Color Changing Switches & Outlets – Switches and outlets can change color simply by swapping in a plastic plate without screws or touching wires.  Now you can have a pink nursery and then an orange kid’s room and then a white office all without ever replacing the switches.

5) High Tech Painting – Solid walls are a thing of the past and so are streaks and dribbles.  The newest painting technology makes drip free designs a snap.


Visit The Money Pit at

Direct download: cw-343-TomKraeutler.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 11:50am EDT

Clem Chambers is the CEO of ADVFN, Europe's leading stock and investment website. He's also author of, "Letters to my Broker: P.S. What do you think of the market." His new book combines the elements of satire, annotations and illustrations to dynamically depict the do's and don'ts of trading and investing. 


Chambers comes out with multiple books every year. He explains going through traditional, mainstream publishers versus self-publishing and the publishing process.


Chambers also provides his analysis on current political and economic questions, including:


- What's going on with gold?

- How and why are governments lying about life expectancy?

- Is the government trying to steal your retirement?

- Are Europeans upset by US snooping? 


Find out more about ADVFN at

Direct download: cw-342-ClemChambers.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:44pm EDT

Join Jason Hartman for this three-part episode covering several topics, including:

  • Self-Directed IRAs (SDIRA) and pension plans
  • Home Owner Associations
  • Jamie Dimon and JP Morgan's Toxic Financial Waste - The largest multi-billion dollar fine in history 
  • Properties in Austin and Memphis
  • Controversial future guests Noam Chomsky and Bill Ayres
  • Direct investing
  • Inflation


Direct download: cw-341-EquityTrusts.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 11:51am EDT

Renowned author, physiologist, evolutionary biologist and bio geographer, Dr. Jared Diamond, joins Jason Hartman for a discussion of his newest book, The World Until Yesterday. Dr. Diamond’s unique background has shaped his integrated version of human history. He posits that success – and failure – depends on how well societies adapt to their changing environment.

Dr. Diamond is also a medical researcher and professor of physiology at the UCLA School of Medicine. His book "Guns, Germs and Steel" won a Pulitzer Prize and "The Third Chimpanzee" was a best-selling award winner. Elected to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, the National Academy of Sciences and the American Philosophical Society, Professor Diamond is a MacArthur Fellow who has published over 200 articles in Discover, Natural History, Nature and Geo magazines.

In his books Guns, Germs and Steel and Collapse (and the popular PBS and National Geographic documentaries they inspired), big-picture scholar Jared Diamond explores civilizations and why they all seem to fall. Now in his latest book, The World Until Yesterday, Diamond examines the traditional societies of New Guinea -- and discovers that modern civilization is only our latest solution to survival.

Direct download: cw-340-JaredDiamond.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 10:09pm EDT

Karl Denninger is an technology expert and businessman, finance blogger, political activist and is sometimes referred to as a founding member of the Tea Party movement. Denninger was also the founder and CEO of MCSNet in Chicago.


Denninger is a founding contributor to the libertarian-oriented finance blog The Market Ticker, found at He uses his blog to levy harsh criticism of the criminal element who are wrecking the global financial system. In the aftermath of the March 2008 collapse of Bear Stearns, he founded the website Fed Up USA. He came to national attention for the criticisms of the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 which he posted on Fed Up USA in September that year. Of special concern to Denninger was the over-the-counter trading of credit default swaps, as well as the high leverage of financial institutions; his objections to the bailout plan stemmed from the fact that it did not address either of these issues. He has also spoken out against high-frequency trading, particularly in the aftermath of the 2010 Flash Crash.


As a publicly outspoken and early member of the Tea Party movement, Denninger is sometimes referred to as a founder. On January the day of President Obama's first inauguration, he published a blog post calling on readers to mail tea bags to the White House and Congress on February 1st, echoing a suggestion by a commenter on one of his earlier blog posts. However, Denninger later expressed concern with the Tea Party movement, specifically that establishment Republicans had hijacked it and perverted its original goals.

Direct download: cw-339-KarlDenniger-redacted.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 12:37pm EDT

Kim Lisa Taylor is a author, real estate investor, and nationally recognized speaker.  She often writes articles on how to legally use OPM (other people’s money), and has been featured in many publications, most recently Personal Real Estate Investor Magazine. She is the author of the soon-to-be released book Syndicate Anything; How to Legally Find Private Investors to Fund Your Dreams While Helping Them Achieve Their Own. 


Kim is frequently a guest speaker on several radio talk shows and has been the keynote speaker at multiple real estate investor events across America. She spends time teaching real estate investors topics such as the "Legal Aspects of Private Lending" and "Partnering and Pooling Money", through live workshops, home-study courses, and books. Kim is a California and Florida licensed attorney and partner in the Corporate Securities Law Firm of Trowbridge & Taylor LLP.

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 10:17am EDT

Doug Brunt is the former CEO of Authentium and author of, "GHOSTS OF MANHATTAN." In his new book, he transports readers back to the extravagant times before Bear Stearns collapsed, exposing a culture with boundless bonuses, where the company expense account was routinely used for bar tabs, visits to strip clubs, and worse. He even throws in some comical stories and describes some of them. Brunt offers a withering view of life on Wall Street from the perspective of an unhappy insider, run-down by the corrosive lifestyle which is jeopardizing his marriage, who is too hooked on the money to find a way out. 


Brunt is married to FOX News anchor Megyn Kelly, who has helped him with his books. Brunt describes their relationship and why he gave up a lucrative career as an Internet security entrepreneur.


Find out more about Doug Brunt at

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Catherine McBreen is the President of Millionaire Corner. 


The U.S. is now seeing record numbers of millionaires. McBreen explains the effect stocks has had on this run-up. 


She recently released a service called "Find an Advisor," and discusses how it helps people find the best financial advisor for them. She also analyzes investment newsletters in lieu of financial advisors.


McBreen finally talks about the effect money has on happiness and marriage relations.


Visit Millionaire Corner at

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Jason talks with Michael Kitces, who is a financial planner and runs the blog Nerds Eye View.

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Jason Hartman talks about rent increases exceeding inflation, Fed tapering off on mortgage backed securities buying and the possible end of the government's role in the secondary mortgage market (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac).  After a quick announcement about the Austin, Texas property tour  Jason discusses Little Rock, Arkansas with our Local Market Specialist (LMS). 


From Wikipedia:  Little Rock is the capital and the largest city of the U.S. state ofArkansas. The Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA) had a population of 717,666 people in the 2012 census estimate. The MSA is included in the Little Rock−North Little Rock, AR Combined Statistical Area, which had a population of 893,610 in the 2012 census estimate. As of the 2010 US Census, Little Rock had a city proper population of 193,524. It is the county seat of Pulaski County.


Located near the geographic center of Arkansas, Little Rock derives its name from a small rock formation on the south bank of theArkansas River called la Petite Roche (French: "the little rock"). The "little rock" was used by early river traffic as a landmark and became a well-known river crossing. The "little rock" is across the river from "big rock," a large bluff at the edge of the river, which was once used as a rock quarry. There have been two ships of the United States Navy named after the city, including USS Little Rock (LCS-9).

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Al Goldstein is the President of Pangea Properties and founder of AvantCredit. He was recently given an award for reviving neighborhoods in inner city Chicago. In this interview, Goldstein discusses his real estate investment strategy and why he focuses so much on the low-income demographic.


Goldstein was also named as a Top 40 under 40 entrepreneur in Chicago. He gives his tips on how to become more entrepreneurial.


Growing up in the Soviet Union in the 1980s, Al Goldstein used to watch government-sponsored cartoons "teaching you to be a good little communist."  But the message never rubbed off on Mr. Goldstein, the main character in a capitalist success story. By age 28, he had built and cashed out of his first entrepreneurial venture: CashNet USA, an online payday loan company he sold for $265 million, just two years after starting it.  Now he's well on his way to building his second business, Pangea Properties, a real estate investment trust that owns 7,000 apartments in Chicago, Indianapolis and Baltimore. Pangea mainly buys properties in lower-income neighborhoods, catering to the same kind of customer whom CashNet targeted.


Find out more about Pangea Properties at Visit AvantCredit at

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Jason talks with Les Leopold on his new book: "How to Make a Million Dollars an Hour: Why Financial Elites get away with siphoning off America's Wealth." In the interview, Les details just how hedge funds are making unthinkable amounts of money. 

Les Leopold co-founded and currently directs two nonprofit organizations, the Labor Institute of New York and the Public Health Institute. He designs research and educational programs on occupational safety and health, the environment and economics. He also serves as a strategic consultant to the Blue-Green Alliance which brings together trade unions and environmental organizations. Leopold designs research and educational programs on occupational safety and health, the environment, and economics and helped form an alliance between the United Steel Workers Union and the Sierra Club. He is a proud graduate of Oberlin College and Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs (MPA 1975). 

Leopold also authored several other books about "The Man Who Hated Work and Loved Labor: The Life and Times of Tony Mazzocchi," (Chelsea Green Publishing, 2006.) If you'd like to read more by Les, you can take a look at his articles published by AlterNet at

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Meredith Whitney is the founder of Meredith Whitney Advisory Group and author of, "FATE OF THE STATES: The New Geography of American Prosperity."


Whitney believes "interior" states like North Dakota, Indiana and Texas are doing a lot better than "coastal" states like California, New York and Florida. She thinks the coastal states continue to struggle long after the recession, while the middle of the country will continue to thrive. 


Keeping these in mind, she discusses the outlook for the following areas: 


- Housing prices 

- Jobs

- Quality of schools 

- Transportation 


She also shares her advice to help troubled municipal and state governments.


Visit the Meredith Whitney Advisory Group at

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Robert Greene, best-selling author of such books as The 48 Laws of Power, The 33 Strategies of War, The Art of Seduction, The 50th Law (with rapper 50 Cent), and Mastery, joins Jason to talk about his wheelhouse topics – power and strategy.

Key Takeaways

· Jason’s take on the current state of European real estate investing – are there any likely prospects?
· What does it mean to become a master in your field? Why do so few people achieve this level of expertise?
· Discovering your calling is easy to say but here’s how you actually do it
· How to avoid hitting the proverbial career wall in your 30’s
· The telltale clues that you might be an entrepreneur
· Charles Darwin’s story – how this unassuming young man became one of history’s most renowned scientists
· Lose your self-absorption and increase your manipulative powers
· There are more types of seduction than you might realize. Here are 9 of them. How to discover your natural seductive area
· How to apply Napoleon’s classic flanking maneuver to your business

Robert Greene on Wikipedia


Best-selling author, Robert Greene, is known for a series of books powered by a broad range of research and sources, synthesized for the masses. His life has been a drastic departure from writers’ who never stray from the hallowed halls of academia. After attending UC Berkeley and graduating from the University of Wisconsin with a degree in Classical Studies, Greene worked his way through 80 different jobs before settling into his current writing career (by his recollection), some of which included construction worker, translator, magazine editor, and even a stint as a Hollywood screenwriter. Robert’s first book was 48 Laws of Power, which became a runaway hit and has sold more than 1.2 million copies. Numbered among its devotees are such celebrities as 50 Cent, Jay-Z, Kanye West, Chris Bosh, and Will Smith. Greene speaks five languages and is a student of Zen Buddhism, as well as an avid swimmer and mountain biker.

Time Stamps

· [1:15] Jason’s monologue includes a reflection on his recent European trip. Has his opinion on investing there changed?
· [7:23] Interview with Robert Greene begins
· [7:48] Defining mastery and how to attain it
· [9:36] Description of Robert’s latest book, Mastery
· [10:12] How to discover your life’s calling
· [12:16] Why so many people hit a career wall in their second decade of work
· [15:02] Check yourself. Are you an entrepreneur
· [17:16] Charles Darwin. From nobody to one of the greatest scientists ever
· [19:00] Robert’s background
· [20:09] All about manipulation and how to use it for good
· [23:05] The 50th Law – 50 Cent; A real American rags to riches story
· [25:20] The hidden power in fearlessness
· [27:52] 9 types of seducers – which are you?
· [30:21] Greatest seducers to ever live
· [31:15] Napoleon’s flanking maneuver and its effect on business today
· [32:04] The Art of War – does Sun Tzu still matter in today’s world?


ANNOUNCER 1: Welcome to Creating Wealth with Jason Hartman! During this program, Jason is going to tell you some really exciting things that you probably haven’t thought of before and a new slant on investing. Fresh new approaches to America’s best investment that will enable you to create more wealth and happiness than you ever thought possible. Jason is a genuine self-made multimillionaire who not only talks the talk but walks the walk. He’s been a successful investor for 20 years and currently owns properties in 11 states and 17 cities. This program will help you follow in Jason’s footsteps on the road to financial freedom. You really can do it! And now, here’s your host, Jason Hartman, with the Complete Solution for Real Estate Investors. Jason’s Back from Europe and Hanging in Iceland

JASON HARTMAN: Welcome to the Creating Wealth show. This is your host, Jason Hartman. This is episode #330 and I am talking to you today from Reykjavik, Iceland. I’m in a quaint, little café, a little coffee shop here, so pardon the background noise. I think you probably hear a little bit of it, but the intro portion won’t be too long before we get to our 10th show guest. And today, that will be the very famous Robert Greene, author of many, many books on Power, Seduction, The 50th Law, The 48 Laws of Power, just a whole bunch of things. He’s got a lot of interesting stuff to share with us today and you know, on every 10th show, we go off the strict financial or real state investing topic and we talk about something that just relates to personal interest and personal success and more effective living.

Anyway, let me tell you a little bit about my European real estate tour here before we get to our guest today and I am in Reykjavik, Iceland now, as I mentioned. Iceland is a beautiful country, a small country and yesterday, I toured around, went to on what they call the Golden Circle tour and saw the geysers, waterfalls, and the tectonic plates where you can actually see rifts in the ground or big, very large cracks where the tectonic plates separated, and that’s quite interesting. Some people go diving in there and it’s just crazy to imagine that that’s literally where the earth has come apart [LAUGHING], creating totally different continents.

Anyway, I was in Spain before this. I toured and looked at quite a few properties. I was in Barcelona and then to the south of that, I was in Malaga and Marbella and, you know, I’ve been reading a lot in the past few years about Croatia, about Spain, in the real estate markets there based on their very different economic situations and Europe’s economic problems in general, and it’s just really inspired me to come out and take another look at some of the European properties. I was pleasantly impressed, actually very impressed, with Malaga and just what a high-end area it is and how much Middle Eastern money and really money from all over the world is flowing into that market. You see Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Rolls-Royces, a lot of Saudi money in that market, very high-end stores and shops, and expensive real estate even though Spain is in a tremendous crisis and unemployment is very high especially among the under 30-age group. I’m not sure, really, how the market will go here. I’m gonna continue to research it when I get back. We have a potential local market specialist here and we may actually have them on a future episode. If not on this show, I’ll do it on my JetSetter Show. So, we’ll see about that, but it has been an interesting trip.

Before Spain, I was in Croatia and I was very, very impressed on the last episode. I talked a little bit about Croatia. I went there and Montenegro as well and what a beautiful, beautiful coastline, really, really amazing. Yeah, it’s been an interesting tour. Before that, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, and I’m on my way back home after Iceland here today.

I’ve got a helicopter tour and I’m actually gonna take a flying lesson here as well. I’m not a private pilot yet, but I’m pretty close to it. My mom said something very wise to me several years ago when I was about to finish and get my private pilot’s license. She said, “Jason, you don’t have enough time to get good at this.” [LAUGHING] And I thought, you know, those are probably some words of wisdom, so I listened to my mom and I really didn’t pursue getting my license, but I do take lessons here and there and I find it particularly interesting when you can take a lesson on a trip, maybe in a different state or in a foreign country and get some sightseeing at the same time, so pretty interesting.

That’s what I’m off to do now and then I’ll be back home and next week when I talk to you, we will be doing our more regular broadcasting, and I’ve got some of the investment counselors and local market specialists that I want to get on to talk about their markets, some different markets we’re looking at and some current events as well. So we will definitely do that and get back to more regular guests. Of course, this is a 10th show. We’re talking to Robert Greene today. So without further adieu, we will be back with Robert Greene in just a moment.


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Introducing Robert Greene, Best-Selling Author

JASON HARTMAN: It’s my pleasure to welcome Robert Greene to the show. He is a famous author on Power and Strategy. He’s the author of several books including his latest book entitled Master. The 48 Laws of Power is another great one, The Art of Seduction, The 50th Law, 33 Strategies of War, and he’s just got a prolific amount of work on the subject, and covers a lot of controversial areas that other authors just don’t really touch, and it’s great to have him here. Robert, welcome! How are you?

ROBERT GREENE: I’m fine. Thank you very much for having me on your show.

JASON HARTMAN: Well, the pleasure is all mine and I like to give my listeners a sense of geography. Are you located, by any chance, in Los Angeles today?

ROBERT GREENE: Good guess. Yes, I am. It’s where I was born and raised and that’s where I live right now, yeah.

JASON HARTMAN: Fantastic! Well, that’s where I grew up too, so we’re both Los Angelinos [LAUGHING].

ROBERT GREENE: Oh, cool. “Mastery” is His New Book

JASON HARTMAN: Well, yeah. So, tell us a little bit about your latest book, Mastery, and then I want to touch on some of the other books as well.

ROBERT GREENE: Well, Mastery is basically a book about what I consider to be the ultimate form of power that a person can have in this world. I think we’re in an environment that’s incredibly competitive and difficult. Very few people have any sort of job security anymore. The competition out there is globalized. It’s intense. It’s everyday. You can’t let up your guard ever and I noticed that in all my years of researching very powerful people, they reach this level of intelligence. It’s not an intellectual intelligence, it’s a practical intelligence. They reach this high level where they’ve mastered their field. Um, you can visualize it in a way where, let’s say, you’re professional with chess, it’s just a metaphor. But after 10, 15 years of playing chess, you’re now like a grandmaster and you’re no longer thinking about the chessboard. It’s internalized. You have a feel for it.


ROBERT GREENE: Being something in larger dimensions, what they call chunks, and I believe that happens in any profession and once you reach that point, you’re on a whole other plane. You’re so creative that nobody’s gonna replace you, that you’re able to see trends and answers to problems that just are invisible to others, and so you’re gonna be continually in demand. You’re like Steve Jobs or whoever it is. It’s not that you have to ignore being good at politics, being a social person is a component of mastery, but once you get to that point, you’ve got command and you’re in demand, and I wanted to show the reader that it’s not a matter of your brain size, what college you went to. It’s a matter of going through a process with a lot of effort and intensity and you will get there, and it’s an incredible feeling, and it’s in all professions. The book covers everything from science to sports, to working with your hands, to the arts. So, it encompasses everything.

JASON HARTMAN: Well, I think you laid out a few steps. Maybe there are four major steps if I’m remembering correctly in the book, find the thing that is your passion, your great area of interest. What are those if you’d go over with them?

The Process of Becoming a Master

ROBERT GREENE: Well, the first step is the most important. If you don’t follow the first step, you’ll never gonna get there and it’s not me just saying that, it’s the pattern of all highly successful people, and for this book I’ve researched a lot of very powerful figures in history and also interviewed nine contemporary masters to show that it’s a very modern thing. But in all of the stories, everybody starts out with step one and what I call it is discovering your calling or your life’s path and the idea is simple. You’re born with a unique set of DNA. Your brain is wired in a totally different way. There’s something unique about you and what separates very powerful successful people from others is that they are very clear early on in their life about that quality in them that makes them unique. It could be a subject that fascinates them, a problem, an activity, or whatever it is and that clarity carries on into their adolescence and then when it comes time for choosing their profession or career, they have much more clarity. There might be a bit of exploring trying to figure out exactly how to apply their interests but there is a higher degree of clarity than what most people have and because they’re so clear about it and they focus so intensely on something that is emotionally engaging to them, they learn much faster, more intensely than other people. That’s the key to everything in life.


ROBERT GREENE: And so you need to be following that path and I show you very clearly in this chapter that you can discover what these inclinations are that you have and carve out a career path that will set you more in that direction than you might be going. A lot of people choose careers because there’s money involved or because their parents said this is what you should do and they do alright in their 20s because they’re young, etc. but then they hit a wall in their 30s because they’re not engaged emotionally, personally with what they’re doing and disaster ensues, and you’re not aware of where the disaster comes from. It is because you’re tuning out. You’re not fully engaged. And so this is such a critical step. I can’t emphasize it enough and I show you how at any point in your life, you can take this step. You can review and figure out what it is and head in that direction.

JASON HARTMAN: Okay. So, Robert I’ve got to ask you because I’m sure there are people listening that are thinking. That’s just never been clear to me. Some people—


JASON HARTMAN: You know, they knew as a kid what they wanted to do. Certainly, what you say makes absolute sense. We all know that the subjects we liked in school, we did well at those usually. Whether it’s, you know, liking the subject or even liking the teacher or professor because you relate to them better or relate to the subject matter better. So, you just pick it up naturally because it’s your area of interest, but just maybe one tip on how someone can discover what their main area is.

ROBERT GREENE: The point of mastery is to slow yourself down. There’s no short cut. There’s no one week suddenly or one year plan. It takes time and so discovering your life path also takes time and a lot of people are not very in tune with themselves. They’ve been listening for too long to what other people have to say. They’re not aware of what their actual interests are, of who they are. So, it’s going to take a couple of, for people like that, it’s gonna take a couple of months, but I’d say something for, a simple banal example will be when you open a newspaper or you check something out online, you’re surfing a site that you like, what is that subject that when you see in the headline, you go, “God! I have to read that. That just fascinates the hell out of me.” I know for myself if I’ve cracked open the New York Times and there’s an article about some discovery about our earliest ancestors, I can’t explain to you why but I am so excited by that. I will read every single article on that subject. Well, there’s something like that for you. There’s always something that lights up your eyes like when you were a kid where you wanna read about it. These are signs. I give you in the book many other signs, but this is a sign of something that excites you in a primal way, that probably dates back to your childhood and you should follow these indications. You should also follow things that you hate in your career path and you hate working for other people. You hate the politicking and all of the gamesmanship involved. Look at that sign. It’s a sign that you are probably an entrepreneur. You probably are meant to be working for yourself. You probably have that individual risk-taking cavalier spirit that is not comfortable working for other people. These are signs and you’ve got to start becoming aware of them.

JASON HARTMAN: Yeah, makes sense, makes sense. Talk to us a little bit more about the mastery subject and I love how, in your books, you tie in so much history and so many historical figures. Every person in business likes to quote and talk about power and talk about the Art of War. Some like to relate to Napoleon. Thoughts there on some of the historical tie-ins and maybe some examples?

Masters’ throughout History – Da Vinci and Darwin

ROBERT GREENE: Well, the icon of this book is Leonardo Da Vinci, you know, like my War book was Napoleon, the Power book was like Louis XIV, Seduction, Cleopatra, The 50th Law was 50 Cent. But here, Da Vinci is sort of the icon in that he is not as mythical as people make him out to be. He’s somebody who came from a rather disadvantaged background. He was an illegitimate son. He was kept out of all of the noble professions and so, the only really avenue for him was to pursue art which actually was something the he deeply, deeply loved and I show clearly in the book that what makes Da Vinci so absolutely astounding was an unbelievable work ethic. His motto was “ostinato rigore” which means obstinate rigor, persistent rigor. He said, “I’ll figure something out just by sheer persistence and work.” That’s a lot of love and I have all sorts of examples.
Of all these other icons in our history that we look up to as being almost superhuman like Mozart, like Einstein, [INDISCERNIBLE], Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, and I showed clearly that what separates these people is the incredible level of persistence and work ethic and they’ve put in their proverbial 10,000 hours to the point of maybe 20,000 hours, and that’s exactly the foundation that makes them so incredibly brilliant. And one of my favorite stories in the book, I mean, I know your audience is business people but this book relates, these stories relate to anybody in any field, it’s about Charles Darwin because it was such a good story.

He’s a young man who doesn’t really know exactly where he sits in this world. He’s not good in school, his father thinks that he’s kind of a loser, he just likes to go hunting and observing things in nature and collecting specimens, and finally, he gets this chance to go on a voyage around the globe on the ship, the HMS Beagle. His father said, “You’re a fool to go on that. Why would you think of something like that? There’s no money. You have no training in it.” And he grabbed it. There’s something inside of him that tells him this is it, and in the process of going on this voyage, he transformed himself from the sort of naïve, inexperienced young man to someone who becomes the greatest observer of nature that we’ve ever had in history and transformed himself into a scientist. And I take this as a metaphor for the transformation that could happen to any person who goes through what I call a rigorous apprenticeship phase like Darwin went through. So these are some of the historical figures that I have in the book from all different fields and as I said, I have nine contemporary figures like great architect, Santiago Calatrava, or the scientist, Temple Grandin, or the great entrepreneur, Paul Graham who started the company, Y Combinator. So, there are lots of stories in it.

JASON HARTMAN: Well, how did you get into it? What is your background? I mean, were you a history professor or just a student of it [LAUGHING]?

ROBERT GREENE: No, I mean, the part of the reason why I’m able to do what I do is I don’t have any traditional background. So, if I were a history professor, I couldn’t write the kind of books that I write because academia kinda forces you into a certain mold.

JASON HARTMAN: Puts you in a box, yeah.

Screenwriter to Philosopher

ROBERT GREENE: Yeah, and my background was I studied, in college, Greek and Latin, Classics, very interested in History and Literature, and then I went out in the work world, and I worked in journalism, and I worked in film and Hollywood, and I had many different jobs, but I was always reading a lot of history and observing people very closely. And so, I like to write books that are incredibly practical because I’m a very practical person. I don’t like reading academic books on a subject that have no relationship to my life but on the other hand, I like to relate it to history and I like to make the readers think very deeply about their lives. So because I don’t fit into these categories, I’m able to kind of be my own self, so to speak.

JASON HARTMAN: Yeah, yeah, very interesting. So, manipulation, it’s a controversial subject, but there are many books and writings on how people can manipulate others to get the result they want out of them, you know, how to change people, how to get your kids to do what you want, how to [LAUGHING] get your dog to do want you want, how to get your spouse or significant other. Can people be manipulated? I think you’re going to say yes to that [LAUGHING] from knowing your work, but tell us uh, if so, how?

It’s all About Manipulation

ROBERT GREENE: Well, you know, you’re referring to my earlier books. It’s just sort of a subject uh, theme in all of them. It’s not so much a question. Manipulation is a loaded word. You can also use the word influence, persuasion. Can we convince other people? Can we get them to do what we want them to do or can we get them to do something that won’t hurt us? And of course we can. If not, we would be miserable, powerless creatures.

JASON HARTMAN: Well, and not only that, you know. I know it’s a loaded word and that’s why I used it but to inspire some or instill some controversy into the discussion but the old saying is nothing happens until somebody sells something and whether it’s selling an idea or a product, that’s where a lot of progress comes from.

ROBERT GREENE: Yeah and so, I’m trying to make you focus very deeply on the other person that you’re dealing with. The greatest problem that everybody faces in this realm of persuasion or manipulation is that they’re self-centered. The focus of their attention is inward so I need to sell this product. I need to make money for my family. This is what I like. The other person must like that as well. That said, are you projecting other than something from inside yourself and you’re not focused on the social environment, on what people are thinking, on their needs, etc. All of my books are simply a way to twist you like a yoga pose out of that constant self-centeredness and get you to focus so that you really, really, really understand where that other person is coming from. Once you have that understanding, you can begin to lower their defenses. You can begin to make them move in your direction whatever that might be. At the furthest extreme, you can manipulate them and I show in “The 48 Laws of Power” that extreme. I go into it and I show you that very powerful people are often, can be often very manipulative and here are some of the laws that they use in that realm. You can either take that knowledge to help defend yourself or if you really need to, you can use this. Uh, and that would be sort of the extreme but the tie that connects all of these stuff together is your ability to get out of yourself and focus deeply on the other person. Once you do that, a weird kind of magic can start happening. You can start figuring out other people. You’re never gonna totally understand that person you’re trying to sell to. There’s always an element of mystery. It’s a margin game. If you’re able to increase your margin of intelligence and knowing about them from 5% to 20%, suddenly a kind of magic happens where you’re able to align your interests and figure out what it is that’s gonna seal the deal or whatever it is you need and that’s, that’s really, really what my books are about.

Writin’ with 50 Cent

JASON HARTMAN: Robert, when you wrote about the, the book about “The 50th Law” you talked about 50 Cent, the rapper. What could 50 Cent teach us? [LAUGHING] you know, it’s uh -

ROBERT GREENE: Well actually it’s the book that is co-written with 50 Cent.


ROBERT GREENE: Uh, and basically that was an interesting process in which we spent about five or six months together and I interviewed him intensely and together we kind of shaped the book and so the uh, more or less collaborative process and it’s an amazing story. I’m not a celebrity person. I could really care less about Leonardo DiCaprio. I’m more interested in everyday people and how they get by in their lives but 50 is an amazing story, he’s a very real person. He doesn’t have all this celebrity crap around him and there are a couple of things that we can learn from him. First, the total American rags to riches story of someone who come from the absolute worst environment and how he’s then able to raise himself up from this bottom to be a very wealthy, very powerful individual. It’s an amazing story and it has incredible lessons.

The other element of it is I determined that there’s a quality about him, that is the source of his power and it’s what I call, what we call fearlessness but it’s not a fearlessness of taking, being ah, beating people up or being aggressive or for guns or anything. It’s a kind of philosophical fearlessness in front of anything that happens in life. He’s not afraid of failing. He’s not afraid of what other people think of him. He’s not afraid of being alone. He’s not afraid of being different and when you have that kind of fearless attitude, you are going to get somewhere in this world in whatever you do and so in this book, we have 10 chapters. Each chapter is about a kind of fear that you have. It’s very primal and very human and here’s how you confront that fear and how you overcome it, uh, it’s all of course illustrated. Each chapter begins with a story from his life illustrated and then we go into history about other great Americans and people around the world who have used uh, a, a similar idea and one of the chapters for instance, just to give you an example, is a fear that a person might have in business is a fear of other people. I know that sounds a little bit counterintuitive but a lot of people in business don’t really want to know too much about their customers, about their audience.
They think they do but they’re afraid of having their own ideas overwhelmed. They want to go in with a preconceived notion because it’s simpler that way. It’s easier that way and people are always more comfortable with themselves than what other people are thinking and this is uh, this is actually a fear alright, we demonstrated very clearly and what made 50 so successful was he broke down all those barriers and he became incredibly, incredibly close to his audience to the point of having a deep understanding. He is one of the first people in music to create a website that has unbelievable uh, access to his own audience and information from them. He’s very, very close to who – whoever he’s trying to sell, whatever he’s trying to sell. It’s a fear that he, that he did overcome and we go very deeply into that chapter so that’s sort of what that book is about.

JASON HARTMAN: Very interesting, you know, with, with all of your books, it begs the question do you have a favorite?

Robert’s Favorite Book is…

ROBERT GREENE: Well, it’s, you know, they’re like children and it’s sort of hard –


ROBERT GREENE: To choose –

JASON HARTMAN: You can’t pick a favorite, right?

ROBERT GREENE: Yeah. Well, you can, I mean, the 48 Laws of Power was my first one and it made me – it transformed me from an unhappy person writing in Hollywood to having this great life so it’s always a love of that. The Art of Seduction was my – it is the most fun to write as you can probably imagine by the title and then uh, the Mastery is the newest one so it’s closest to me so maybe right now, that’s my favorite child, but The 50th Law was a lot of fun to write. I can’t say that the Book on Warfare was not fun because it was a very tough subject but even that book, you know, had some closeness to my heart so it’s hard really to say.

JASON HARTMAN: Um-hum. Yeah. I, I knew that would be impossible to pick – like asking a parent to pick their favorite child.


JASON HARTMAN: But, interesting. Well, you mentioned about the, the Seduction book and –


JASON HARTMAN: I mean, wow, what an amazing compilation in the Art of Seduction of these different, these different personas that people can exhibit and, and you give examples of people throughout history that have done this. How about if you take a few of those and then, I would be remiss not mention that this isn’t just about seduction in a romantic or a sexual sense but at the end, you talk about self-seduction and how to sell anything to the masses.

And Along Came Seduction

ROBERT GREENE: Yeah, I mean, uh, I’m trying to write a book about the psychology of seduction which I say permeates us as human beings. We are continually vulnerable to being seduced so certainly, we think of sexual seduction and there’s a lot of that in this book but it is also social seduction, how you can charm and get people around you to like you. It’s also political seduction. John F. Kennedy seduced the Americans in 1960 and won an election. It’s clearly marketing and I go into, as you say, the soft sell. So, I’m interested in what ties all of that together.

What ties Cleopatra to John F. Kennedy or, or whomever and there are ties to it. It always involving the same seduction, the same psychology which is how do you lower people’s resistance so they do more or less what you would like them to do and in seduction, you’re creating a kind of pleasurable environment where it’s not about overt manipulation. It’s about what you’re getting people to do is something that they actually want to do or will like and I’m gonna show you how you can have that power.

The beginning of the book, the first half, I, I identified nine types of seducers and you’re probably gonna have the, hopefully, at least one of these types and maybe a combination of two, possibly three and the idea is to be a seducer, you can’t just be reading a book and following certain strategies. You’re gonna seem cold-hearted, particularly, a woman will see right through you and you won’t get very far and it’s not fun. So, the trick is to discover what is naturally seductive about yourself as an individual. So, I identified these types and I make you more aware of what makes you a
[INDISCERNIBLE] or a rake or if you’re a woman, a siren or a dandy or, or the charismatic, etc.

The second half of the book I go into various strategies that people typically use in the seduction. Um, and, all of these chapters have application to marketing, to politics, to selling anything as well and, and in there, it’s clear when you read them. But the second half of the book, I kinda show you starting from the beginning, with knowing who it is that you’re trying to seduce, to the last strategy, which is sort of consummating the deal whatever that might be. And along the way, I give you stories from the greatest seducers who had ever lived in all of these different fields.

JASON HARTMAN: What book took you the longest to write?

The Art of War Revisited

ROBERT GREENE: Well, uh, the War book is sort of my version of Sun Tzu’s Art of War and in, for business people, it’s maybe in some ways, the most applicable, but it was a very difficult subject because first, there are so many books written on warfare. The subject is so big. And what I wanted to do is take all of the most classic strategies that exist in the history of warfare. And identify this and then show you the psychology behind them and how they’re applicable to everyday situations, to business, to dealing with people. Uh, and that is not easy. It’s not really been done before to show you on the pulley and the use of the flanking maneuver. It’s actually a strategy that has incredible application to running a business. So it took a lot of thinking on my part and a lot of work, a lot of hard work. So that book was the longest and hardest to produce.

JASON HARTMAN: I would agree that when you read The Art of War and try to relate it to modern times I don’t think that’s very easy to do. People talk about it, maybe [LAUGHING] in an attempt to sound intellectual or something but if you ask me, I didn’t find that much relation to business. Maybe I’m missing something but [LAUGHING] or my attention span is too short. I don’t know.

ROBERT GREENE: Well the Sun Tzu is an amazing book, I used it very much in my book on war, but you’re right. I understand exactly what you’re saying but let’s say a scene in Sun Tzu is all about not going to war unless you have to and using your resources, marshaling them to the best possible usage, so you’re not wasting life and you’re not just ruining your country in the process. Well, I created a chapter out of that which I called First Economy and that means using your resources, who you are, your business, your army to the absolute maximum economical usage. So you’re not wasting anything and basically the idea is your reliance on money or technology is making you probably less creative than you want to be. You can be incredibly creative with less actual material resources and do better in your business than you are if you’re so addicted to spending a lot of money and buying things that you think are gonna improve your productivity, etc. That’s an idea of Sun Tzu that you can take as metaphor and apply to sports, to business, to life in general, and that’s sort of what my approach was.

JASON HARTMAN: Yeah, very interesting. Well, of course your books are available at the bookstores and on and the web site is, all written out and anything else you’d like to people to know in closing Robert?
Closing Comments

ROBERT GREENE: No. Yes, you say There will be links there to Mastery, etc. Now, I guess it’s just that these are books that are meant, you know, they are longer. They’re not a simple read like a lot of self-help books but if you take the time, they’re all very practically oriented and reading them, you don’t have to read them [INDISCERNIBLE]. You can skip the chapters that seem more irrelevant but it kinda gets under your skin. I’m trying to alter your way of thinking, your life and about success. I’m trying, we discussed a little earlier about making you less self-centered. It’s a process and I’m trying to change how you think and I think reading the book in that spirit, it, it has incredible practical value if you give it a time. So that’s sort of the [INDISCERNIBLE]

JASON HARTMAN: Yeah, what I, what I love about your work is just all that historical ties and I, I feel like –


JASON HARTMAN: I learn so much about history, reading a book about power or seduction which I would never think you know, [LAUGHING] that would come out on that’s why your work is a just very interesting, very well thought out. I’ve got to ask you, do you have another book in your sights? The recent release of Mastery but what’s next?

ROBERT GREENE: Well, a lot of my books kinda come out of an idea in another book uh, in those that I’ve written and so with Mastery, I have a chapter on what I called Social Intelligence and the idea in that chapter is to say, it’s not just enough to master your field and be technically brilliant at it. You also have to be really good with people and intelligence, intellectual intelligence actually goes hand-and-hand with people intelligence, the social intelligence. I’m gonna write a book that expands that idea into something much larger. I’m gonna give you what I called a deep, deep understanding of the elements of human nature that go back thousands of years, that are embedded in each person. So that when you read this book, you’re gonna have a much better sense of what is motivating the people around you. You’re gonna be able to read them a lot better than just of kinda go operating blindly. And I’m gonna show you how you can develop this kind of reading ability and I’m gonna give you, as I said, this kind of encyclopedia about human nature so you’ll have a much better knowledge of what motivates people.

JASON HARTMAN: That sounds fascinating and I really, really look forward to that book. We will definitely have you back on to talk about –


JASON HARTMAN: Social intelligence and Robert Greene, thank you so much for joining us today.

ROBERT GREENE: Oh well, thank you so much for having me. It was fun.

JASON HARTMAN: Be sure to call in to the Creating Wealth Show and get you’re real estate investing and economics questions answer by me personally. We’d love to have you call in, share your experiences, ask your questions and a lot of other people listening have those very same questions so be a participant in the show at (480) 788-7823 that’s (480) 788-7823 or anywhere in the world via Skype JasonHarmanROI, that’s Jason Hartman ROI for Return on Investment. Be sure to call in to the show. We are going to enter all callers in a drawing for some nice prizes as well, so be sure to call in the show and I look forward to talking with you soon.

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James Altucher is the Managing Director of Formula Capital and Founder of Stockpickr. He writes the popular blog, "Altucher Confidential." He is also the author of the new, "Choose Yourself: Be Happy, Make Millions, Live the Dream."


James first first went through big publishers to get your investing-related books out, but you now self-publish everything. James explains how viable self-publishing is and how he gets the word out for his books. 


James frequently holds Twitter chats with his followers and has even written books based off these conversations. Now he is paying people to read his new. book. This strategy is already revolutionizing content marketing.


James is the first person to pre-sell a book on Bitcoin. He describes his outlook on this currency, and how will it affect gold's value. 


Visit Altucher Confidential at

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Byron Dorgan is the former Senator of North Dakota and author of, “Gridlock.” In this interview, Dorgan explains the very real threats to our highly vulnerable electrical system. Countries from Russia to China have ALREADY infected our electrical systems with a powerful virus that can’t be simply removed. There NO SUCH THING as a National Electrical Grid. Dorgan discusses what America has done to basically sabotage our alternative energy industry. He still believes there are some ways we can use coal as an effective energy source.

As a former Senator, Dorgan talks about what made him want to write fiction books. Find out more about Byron Dorgan at

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 12:16pm EDT

Dr. Jerome Corsi is Editor of the Red Alert newsletter. He recently authored, ""What Went Wrong: The Inside Story of the GOP Debacle of 2012 ... And How It Can be Avoided"  Corsi discusses how Obama is trying to take control of people's 401k's to balance the budget. Dr. Jerome Corsi is a Senior Staff Reporter for World Net Daily where he works as an investigative reporter. In 2004, Dr. Corsi co-authored the #1 New York Times bestseller, Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry.


The success of Unfit for Command permitted Dr. Corsi to devote full time to writing. In the past 5 years, he has published 5 New York Times bestselling non-fiction books. In August 2008, he published The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality, which was a #1 New York Times bestseller for a month and remained on the NYT bestseller list for 10 weeks. His most recent non-fiction book, America for Sale: Fighting the New World Order, Surviving a Global Depression, and Preserving USA Sovereignty debuted on the New York Times bestseller list on Nov. 1, 2009. For nearly 25 years, beginning in 1981, Dr. Corsi worked with banks throughout the United States and around the world to develop financial services marketing companies to assist banks in establishing broker/dealers and insurance subsidiaries to provide financial planning products and services to their retail customers.


He is a frequent guest on talk radio shows nationally and has made repeated television appearances on Fox News, MSNBC, CNN News and Fox Business News. Dr. Corsi lives with his family in New Jersey, where he is a full-time writer.


Visit the Red Alert newsletter at



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Jason and Steve talk about world issues, and then Jason talks with a caller.

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Dennis Miller is the author of a book called Retirement Reboot and the only retired RetireMentor columnist on Marketwatch. Jason Hartman interviews Dennis about his experiences and research on retirees and investing. Dennis is also the author of the weekly newsletter Millers Money which has over 150,000 subscribers. Dennis surveyed his readers about how much inflation is a reality in their lives. Over 3,000 people responded and the results were staggering. The reality is that retirees living off a fixed income know EXACTLY how much the price of basic necessities have gone up. They can not only tell you exactly how much the price went up, they can tell you how much the packaging has downsized and how the quality has diminished. Dennis has tapped into the real fear faced by retirees. These three columns that came out of the results really sum up how the government inflation numbers are not a true reflection of how retirees live their lives which is why they seem to be feeling inflation to a greater extent.


•             Only 1.6% thought inflation was 1 – 2%

•             14.2% of readers thought inflation was 3 – 5% for them

•             34.9% thought inflation was 6 – 8% for them

•             25.7% thought inflation was 9 – 10% for them

•             23.6% thought inflation was over 11% for them



For more details, visit

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 12:19pm EDT

George Gilder is Publisher of the Gilder Technology Report, Chairman of the Gilder Group, co-founder and Senior Fellow at Discovery Institute, an original pillar of Supply Side economics, and author of, "KNOWLEDGE AND POWER: The Information Theory of Capitalism and How it is Revolutionizing our World."


The information age is changing our country's economics. Gilder explains his new paradigm for kick-starting economic growth and how companies outside the tech sector can benefit from Silicon Valley-style information flow. Gilder believes the risks inherent in free enterprise relate to accumulation of knowledge. 


Gilder also discusses the drivers that lead to poverty as well as the most efficient ways to eradicate poverty. 


Find out more information about the Gilder Technology Report at Visit the Discovery Institute at

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 11:40am EDT

Jason Hartman opens with one of the investment counselors as they discuss current news, rental properties and the biggest obstacle to investor success.  More at:  With our guest for this episode, you'll hear opinions on some of the too-good-to-be-true advertising schemes out there.  Jason and Doug will render opinion on, expose and debunk some advertising claims in this investigative report.  This is just our opinion, as Dennis Miller says; we could be wrong - you decide.  Here are a few very cleaver ad examples, targeted at investors, for your consideration:  


"Stock Picks" newsletter:

  • Isn't anybody who advertises high-return stock picks is usually "cherry picking" their winners while completely ignoring their losers?  We think that may be the case.  One example might be Porter Stansberry's own report card, he under-performed the S&P 500 by around >10% in 2012 for the Stansberry Investment Advisory Newsletter.  Still an interesting and well written newsletter in either case.  Maybe this year or next year will be better for stock picking, we'll see. 

"Five Words" to get real silver from banks:

  • Those five words are "do you have half dollars" ... the idea is that half dollars minted prior to 1971 contained physical silver, and are worth far more than their face value.
  • The problem is that most banks don't carry half dollars any more, and most people's time is too valuable to spend going to banks and picking through coins to try and find ones minted before 1971.

"Buy $2 dollar silver" - really?:

  • This strategy is to buy a bag of "junk silver" at current spot prices of around $23/oz.  Junk silver are old coins with physical silver content.  The cost of a bag nets out to ~$2.00 for a dime with enough silver to be worth $2.00 in the open market.  Effectively this strategy teaches you to buy silver at the market price.  Isn't this useless?
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Frank Vernuccio is the Editor-in-Chief of the NY Analysis of Policy & Government. He also co-hosts the radio program, "The Vernuccio/Allison Report." He serves as President of COMACTA. 

With the sequestration, civilian workforces will be furloughed, and the impacts will be felt socially and economically. Many dangers will occur as a result of furloughing so many Department of Defense employees. Vernuccio explains how these will affect military personnel.

The New York Analysis of Policy & Government provides practical reviews of key issues facing the United States on the federal, state and local levels. Vernuccio co-hosts the "And Nothing But the Truth" radio show on WVOX in Westchester, NY with Larry Allison. He has extensive experience as a legislative writer, columnist, and policy analyst, with a background in both Republican and Democrat administrations.

View Frank Vernuccio's work at

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 11:27am EDT

George H. Walper, Jr. is the President of the Spectrem Group. He discusses the correlation between how investors describe their risk tolerance and how they actually make investment decisions. He also shares whether investors looking to get more aggressive given the market's run-up. There's been a lot of debate about the one-percenters... are they helping or hurting the economy and markets? Walper shares the data. Retirement has changed a lot over the past decade. How much do wealthy investors think is in the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?

Visit the Spectrem Group at

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Jason Hartman interviews Dr. Bob Wright, co-author of Transformed! The Science of Spectacular Living and Beyond Time Management: Business with a Purpose, to talk about the science and positive results in personal transformation and finding purpose. Dr. Wright discusses identifying inner yearnings, becoming more engaged, and becoming more aware of our programming (limitations) and changing them. He explains the difference between learning and growing and how to transform our lives by rebuilding neuro pathways in the brain. He also defines the three types of happiness – hedonic, engaged and meaningful – and how to create an intimate relationship with our fears in order to transform. Dr. Wright then talks with Jason about finding deeper purpose in business, creating a more meaningful, more fulfilling experience.

Dr. Robert Wright is a highly successful entrepreneur, world-class executive coach, and dynamic corporate consultant. An internationally recognized author, Dr. Wright is considered a visionary and cutting-edge thinker, speaker, and program developer in the areas of human potential and human emergence technologies. Called a top executive coach by Crain’s Chicago Business, DrWright specializes in helping corporate leaders and entrepreneurs across the country not
only to build and grow their businesses, but also to thrive with purpose, mission, and robust, high-performing cultures.

After selling his top-ranked managed care and employee assistance firm in 1994, Dr. Wright co-founded the Wright Business Institute and Wright in Chicago to help leaders, entrepreneurs, families, individuals, and organizations realize their fullest potential in all areas of life. In his most recent venture, he co-founded and serves as CEO and faculty of the Wright Graduate Institute for the Realization of Human Potential, a graduate school offering masters and doctoral
degrees in human development. Look for Dr. Wright’s work at

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Jason Hartman is joined by investment counselor, Steve, in this episode as they discuss current events from Newser and Zero Hedge.  The talk of a real estate bubble is increasing in volume; however, that issue must be considered in many component parts to be understood, our take… we have a long way to go unless interest rates increase rather dramatically. The Zero Hedge articles include:


  • ·        Big Investors Quietly Slip Out The Back Door On Housing As "Stupid Money" Jumps In
  • ·        The last to the party: Investors and flippers competing for small amount of inventory.


Next, Jason interviews the Austin, Texas Local Market Specialist (LMS) as they look at investor trends both in and out of the greater Austin MSA.  More at:


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Anthony Lolli is the CEO at Rapid Realty. He gives us some tell tale buying signs that he sees from his clients. Anthony can tell from a client's behavior if they are saying "yes" when they really should be saying "no." Anthonythinks a client's demeanor can help determine the right type of property for them. Anthony also explains if real estate agents always have resale value of property on their minds when evaluating a potential sale.  

Find out more about Anthony Lolli at Visit Rapid Realty at

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 11:31am EDT

Jason Hartman starts this 317th episode along with Steve as they discuss real estate market conditions and economic factors creating investor urgency.  Then it's a discussion of "Crowd Funding" - a potentially hot new opportunity that came out of the 'Jumpstart Our Business Startups Act' or JOBS Act, a law intended to encourage funding of United States small businesses by easing various securities regulations.


It passed with bipartisan support, and was signed into law by President Barack Obama on April 5, 2012.  To help with the discussion client, Chase Insogna, CPA outlines some of the issues.  Chase is Managing Partner & Co-Owner of Insogna & Stewart, CPAs, PC, a licensed CPA firm focusing on delivering paperless & cloud-based technologies to provide professional accounting and tax services for small & medium-size businesses, including entertainment (film & music) and through crowdfunding platforms. To contact Chase, please visit

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Jason Hartman talks with Jed Kolko, chief economist of Trulia, about current trends in buying, selling, and new construction in real estate markets around the country. “We’re seeing the biggest increase in construction on the multi-family side,” Jed shares. He says this is definitely a recovery time in the housing markets, although there are some markets that are investor driven that may not last. One red flag still hovering is the upcoming large foreclosure wave in certain markets around the U.S. Jed also shares where consumers are looking hardest, such as the western part of the country and suburbs. There are some urban neighborhoods experiencing growth, but there is still more population growth and interest in suburban neighborhoods. Jed and Jason also discuss seasonal patterns of buying and selling. For more details, listen at:

Jed Kolko, Chief Economist and VP of Analytics, oversees Trulia's research programs. Applying a background in economic development and research methods, he transforms real estate data, economic trends, and public policy debate into digestible insights for home buyers, sellers and renters. In Jed's prior role as Associate Director and Research Fellow at the Public Policy Institute of California, he led research projects and advised policymakers and business leaders on economic, housing and technology policies. Before his work at PPIC, Jed directed Forrester Research's consumer-technology market research, advising corporate executives on technology adoption and demand. Jed has also held positions at the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (now FHFA), the World Bank and the Progressive Policy Institute.



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Doug Wead has served along side some of the greats in modern American politics. Doug has been close with and written books about several "First Families." Doug's work has been praised by everyone from Ladybird Johnson (wife of LBJ) to former Congressman and Presidential Candidate Ron Paul, whom he served as a senior adviser in the 2012 Republican Presidential Primary.

Doug was an adviser for both Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. Wead also worked with George W. Bush for years leading up to his Presidency

Wead has authored more than thirty books, which are known for their primary sources. He has interviewed six presidents and first ladies, nineteen of the presidents children and twelve presidential siblings.   

During the 2008 Presidential Debates, then Congressman, Dr. Ron Paul impressed Doug Wead with his non-interventionist foreign policy platform and caused him to deviate from the "old right wing" which he had served and written about dutifully for decades. As a senior adviser to Dr. Paul during the 2012 campaign for President, he was regularly featured on CNN, MSNBC and Fox News where he defended Paul's foreign policy and monetary policy, among others.

Since the end of the 2012 election cycle, Doug Wead and Ronnie Paul Jr., eldest son of Dr. Paul, have teamed up to form The Liberty Networking Project. They are dedicated to providing those in the self-dubbed "Liberty Movement" with an opportunity to profit from the unprecedented level of net-based enthusiasm and connectedness generated during the 2008 and 2012 grassroots Presidential campaigns of Congressman Paul.

More information about Doug and Liberty Networkers can be found at

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Jason Hartman talks with Steve about his recent trip to the British Virgin Islands (BVI) including Necker Island owned by Richard Branson, the founder of the Virgin group of companies.

Jason and Steve discuss the gold crash, goldbugs, the silver markets, Harry Dent's prediction of gold dropping to $750, Peter Schiff's incorrect prediction of gold at $5,000 by the end of Obama's first term. Is Gen Y deflationary?  We'll see.  Other talking points include; judicial foreclosures, streamlining the foreclosure process and price discovery, British Virgin Islands (BVI) asset protection and several other issues.

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John Ulzheimer is the President of consumer education at Recently, there was a massive ten-year, $200M credit card fraud scheme, spanning 28 states, eight countries, with 18 people arrested. Ulzheimer breaks down how this happened. He also give us a step-by-step process whereby a fraudster can create a synthetic consumer out of thin air. 

Ulzheimer shares tips for improving your credit score and preventing identity theft. He urges people not to close their old credit cards.

John Ulzheimer is a nationally recognized expert on credit reporting, credit scoring and identity theft. He is the President of Consumer Education at and the credit blogger for Formerly of FICO, Equifax and, John is the only recognized credit expert who actually comes from the credit industry. He has served as a credit expert witness in more than 125 cases and has been qualified to testify in both Federal and State court on the topic of consumer credit.  Download John’s CV here.

John has 21+ years of experience in the consumer credit industry including positions with Equifax Credit Information Services and Fair Isaac (inventors of the FICO® credit scoring system). He has authored the following educational materials including:

  • You’re Nothing but a Number
  • Common Mistakes Made by Ineffective Credit Expert Witnesses
  • Top 10 Ways to Survive a Deposition
  • The Smart Consumer’s Guide to Good Credit

John has been quoted and published over 1,000 times since 2005 on the topic of consumer credit and has appeared numerous times on CNBC, FOX, CNN, CBS Evening News and Oprah’s “Oprah and Friends” XM Satellite Radio show. He has contributed to CNBC’s “On The Money” and “The Millionaire Inside”, Freddie Mac’s “Know Your Score” campaign, Oprah’s “Debt Diet” series and The Suze Orman Show. He is also a frequent commentator on credit-related issues in various outlets including CNBC, Associated Press, USA TODAY, Los Angeles Times, New York Times,, Washington Post, American Banker, Wall Street Journal,, MONEY Magazine,, ABC News Radio, CBS MoneyWatch, and other regional business and consumer media.

Since 2006 John has been a regular guest lecturer at The Westminster Schools in Atlanta and the University of Georgia in Athens. He also volunteers his time to speak about consumer credit to the Georgia Consortium for Personal Financial Literacy and the Atlanta Union Mission. He has also taught courses at Emory University’s Center for Lifelong Learning and guest lectured at The Walker School, both in metro Atlanta.

Visit John Ulzheimer's website at

Direct download: cw-313-JohnUlzheimer.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 10:05pm EDT

Professor Richard Epstein, pioneering Libertarian legal scholar, joins Jason Hartman to explain how income inequality is good for society, but is very dependent on the methods used to produce the best outcome. The current methods our government are attempting to use are causing job losses, it blocks gains in trade, the need for further public assistance increases, which in turn increases taxes, “yet another implicit drain on voluntary transactions,” Richard illustrates. He provides examples to demonstrate the consequences of equality by egalitarian efforts of our government versus voluntary redistribution.  Listen for more details at:


 Richard A. Epstein is the inaugural Laurence A. Tisch Professor of Law at NYU School of Law. He has authored several books, including Design for Liberty: Private Property, Public Administration and the Rule of Law, The Case Against the Employee Free Choice Act, Supreme Neglect: How to Revive the Constitutional Protection of Property Rights, and many more. Richard has written numerous articles on a wide range of legal and interdisciplinary subjects. He has taught courses in administrative law, antitrust law, civil procedure, communications, constitutional law, contracts, corporations, criminal law, employment discrimination law, environmental law, food and drug law, health law and policy, legal history, labor law, property, real estate development and finance, jurisprudence, labor law; land use planning, patents, individual, estate and corporate taxation, Roman Law; torts, and workers' compensation.


He also writes a legal column, the Libertarian, found at, and is a contributor to and the SCOTUSblog.


Direct download: cw-312-RichardEpstein.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:27pm EDT

CW 311: National Debt & Grassroots Political Campaigns with Dean Clancy VP of Public Policy for FreedomWorks

Jason Hartman interviews Dean Clancy, the Vice President of Public Policy of a grassroots movement called FreedomWorks, to discuss many hot topics and issues that our country is facing. Dean talks about the fiscal cliff and the ramifications of the policies pushed through on New Year’s Eve, and the money being thrown at special interests in typical bloated government fashion. Dean stresses the importance of voter participation and discusses some radical options to turn around the debt crisis and decentralize the system. He states there is more incentive in government to do the wrong thing than what is actually best for our country and its citizens.


FreedomWorks’ aggressive, real-time campaigns activate a growing and permanent volunteer grassroots army to show up and demand policy change. They believe individual liberty and the freedom to compete increases consumer choices and provides individuals with the greatest control over what they own and earn. They lead the fight for lower taxes, less government, and more freedom.


Dean Clancy is FreedomWorks’ Legislative Counsel and Vice President, Health Care Policy. He leads our efforts to reverse the government takeover of health care and adopt a patient-centered approach. Clancy has served as the top White House budget official on health care, Medicare, Social Security, and other major government spending programs; as executive director of the President’s Council on Bioethics; and as a senior policy advisor to the congressional leadership. Clancy boasts an impressive resume a deep expertise on a broad range of domestic and fiscal policy subjects. Jokingly referring to himself as a "recovering Washington insider," Clancy works closely with Members of Congress, grassroots activists, and the public to defend and strengthen the world's best health care system and reduce government interference in the doctor-patient relationship.

Direct download: cw-311-DeanClancy.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 8:44pm EDT

CW 310: Journey to Success with Jack Canfield NY Times Bestselling Author of the ‘Chicken Soup for the Soul’ Series

On this episode, Jason Hartman is joined by Jack Canfield, America’s #1 Success Coach, to talk about Jack’s journey to success as founder and CEO of Chicken Soup for the Soul Enterprises, founder and chairman of The Canfield Training Group, and his latest project, Bestseller Blueprint Training Program.  

As the beloved originator of the Chicken Soup for the Soul® series, Jack Canfield fostered the emergence of inspirational anthologies as a genre - and watched it grow to a billion dollar market. As the driving force behind the development and delivery of more than 123 million books sold through the Chicken Soup for the Soul® franchise (and over 500 million copies in print worldwide), Jack Canfield is uniquely qualified to talk about success.

His proven formula for success reached global acclaim with his most recent National Bestseller, The Success Principles™: How to Get from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be. Jack is a multiple New York Times bestselling author, including titles such as The Power of Focus, The Aladdin Factor, Dare to Win, You’ve Got to Read This Book! and The Key to Living the Law of Attraction.

Direct download: cw-310-JackCanfield.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 9:39pm EDT

CW 309: A Personal Journey from the .COM Crash to the Real Estate Crash with Roger Salam Founder and CEO of Winners Circle

Join Jason Hartman as he talks with real estate investor and Winners Circle founder and CEO, Roger Salam about Roger’s journey from going bust in the dot com business to becoming a successful real estate investor until the housing bubble burst.

Roger began this journey by investing in himself before investing in properties, but as he said, “I was getting ready to get ready to get ready, and I was so scared to pull the trigger for the first house.” Finally, with the help of a mentor, he purchased his first property…in a war zone of drug dealers and thugs.

He shares his experiences of cleaning up the neighborhood, building relationships and putting together a team of other investors. He started investing in higher quality neighborhoods and began working with hard-money lenders. Roger’s venture grew until it became nationwide, but the housing bust led to him unraveling his portfolio. Jason and Roger talk about the bad deals created by the banks and the shift in real estate deals that have created better opportunities for investors. Roger’s experiences taught him a lot and led him to create The Winners Circle.

Direct download: cw-309-RogerSalam.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 8:49pm EDT

CW 308: Cyprus Bailout & The Race to Debase Currencies with John Rubino of and

Jason Hartman and John Rubino of tackle the latest hot EU issue happening in Cyprus with the potential implosion of the Cyprian banking system. John discusses what is on the table to bail out Cyprus and the consequences of any deals reached. He also shares his outlook for Japan, the U.S. and other countries around the world, including the race to debase currencies and the run to gold.

John Rubino manages the popular financial website He is co-author, with GoldMoney’s James Turk, of The Collapse of the Dollar and How to Profit From It (Doubleday, 2007), and author of Clean Money: Picking Winners in the Green-Tech Boom (Wiley, 2008), How to Profit from the Coming Real Estate Bust (Rodale, 2003) and Main Street, Not Wall Street (Morrow, 1998). After earning a Finance MBA from New York University, he spent the 1980s on Wall Street, as a Eurodollar trader, equity analyst and junk bond analyst. During the 1990s he was a featured columnist with and a frequent contributor to Individual Investor, Online Investor, and Consumers Digest, among many other publications. He currently writes for CFA Magazine.

Direct download: cw-308-JohnRubino.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 1:58pm EDT

CW 307: Gold Market Corrections & An Uncertain Future for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac with Jim Rogers

Jason Hartman is joined by Jim Rogers, who is returning to the show a second time, to talk about Jim’s thoughts on several issues. Jim discusses the possibility of a major correction in the gold market, cautioning that it is not normal to have so many speculators rushing in right now. He gives his opinion on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, stating that eventually Congress may have to get rid of them and he doesn't see how they can continue to survive.

Jim gives his insights on real estate markets and the possible ramifications and benefits if Fannie and Freddie were gone. He also talks about the direction of home-building, and his opinion of the so-called “recovery” in our country, noting that certain sectors are doing quite well.

Direct download: cw-307-JimRogers.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 7:00pm EDT

CW 306: Central American Real Estate Investment Markets with Jason Hartman Podcasting from San Pedro, Belize

Jason Hartman just returned from his second real estate scouting trip to Belize and doesn't have much to show for it in terms of cash flowing income properties.  In this episode you'll hear his discussion from the beach in Ambergris Caye, San Pedro, Belize with a developer who is active in four countries in the region.

Direct download: cw-306-MikeCobb.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 1:00pm EDT

CW 305: American & International Real Estate Investing plus Judicial vs Non-Judicial Foreclosures with Investment Counselor Steve

Jason Hartman covers several issues in this episode including; American vs. international real estate investing, keeping ROI score, maintaining emotional stability, judicial vs non-judicial foreclosures, and much more with investment counselor, Steve.

Direct download: cw-305-JasonSteve.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 12:21pm EDT

CW 304: Nominal Dollars vs Real Dollars & Understanding Investor Psychology with Investment Counselor Sara

Jason Hartman talks with investment counselor, Sara, about investor psychology, overcoming obstacles and getting out of our own way.  The smoke-and-mirrors propaganda perpetuated by mainstream media (lamestream media as Sarah Palin says) in reporting the new high in the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA).  

They almost always fail to distinguish between nominal dollars and real dollars.  Jason illustrates how investors have actually lost money in inflation adjusted dollars and how the Dow has to increase a lot more before investors break even based on the two peaks.  This lie is even worse when one considers how inflation is underreported in the consumer price index (CPI and CPI-U) due to weighting, substitution and hedonics (the hedonic index).  Another misrepresentation is the 'core rate' or 'core inflation' which strips out food and energy because they're too volatile.

Direct download: cw-304-LenderPanel.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 1:00pm EDT

CW 303: Visualizing Finance with Carl Richards Author of ‘The Behavior Gap: Simple Ways to Stop Doing Dumb Things With Money’

It is possible to illustrate complex financial concepts and Jason Hartman interviews author/artist, Carl Richards, who developed a way to do this and led to his book, The Behavior Gap: Simple Ways to Stop Doing Dumb Things with Money.  Carl creates simple sketches that help people understand financial concepts, which he refers to as Visualizing Finance. People are primarily visual learners and Carl found that as he made the concepts visual, it was easier to communicate them to others effectively.

He shares some of these visualizations, such as the market cycles, explaining the terms he uses and the psychology behind the buy/sell behaviors in the stock market. Using a Venn diagram, he is able to help people realize what they have control over and what they don’t, whether it’s investments or business, and enabling them to make better decisions and simplify their financial life.

Carl became an accidental artist with his simple sketches that make complex financial concepts easy to understand for thousands of people every week on The New York Times Bucks blog. Richards’ art had its first showing at the Kimball Art Center, in Park City, Utah. His commissioned work is on display in businesses and educational institutions across the country.

Direct download: cw-303-CarlRichards.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 8:10am EDT

CW 302: Free Markets vs Big Government with Steve Forbes Editor-in-Chief of Forbes Media and Author of ‘Freedom Manifesto’

Jason Hartman is joined on this episode by Steve Forbes, the editor in chief of Forbes Media, to propose and attempt to answer the question:  Why does government get bigger and bigger when we know it doesn’t work well? Mr. Forbes states that history proves free markets work for the people, while big and over-reaching government is about meeting its own needs.

In his book, Freedom Manifesto: Why Free Markets Are Moral and Big Government Isn’t, coauthored with Elizabeth Ames, the authors delve into historic events and statistics, showing that in every instance, big government promotes favoritism, stifles economic growth, dumbs down education, and creates an atmosphere of “rigidity and scarcity.” At the same time, it opens the door to corruption.

Mr. Forbes discusses the benefits of economic freedom, which promotes creativity and growth. Jason and Mr. Forbes also talk about current economic issues, including the bubbles that the Fed continues to create in the bond market and housing. “When government undermines money, bad things happen,” laments Mr. Forbes. “When government says it’s here to help, watch out!”

Direct download: cw-302-SteveForbes.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 8:10am EDT

CW 301: Geopolitical Outlook & Income Property Investing with Bud Conrad Author and Chief Economist of Casey Research

Jason Hartman interviews Bud Conrad, Chief Economist of Casey Research, regarding the geopolitical focal points in our world, funneling these down to how it all affects the United States. Bud mentions the importance of looking at the big picture of what is happening in the world, particularly China becoming the new “mover” in the world, Japan’s apparent desire to destroy its currency, new technology, government overreach, who benefits from inflationary measures and monetary policy, and much more.

Author of the new book Profiting from the World's Economic Crisis, Bud Conrad holds a Bachelor of Engineering degree from Yale and an MBA from Harvard. He has held positions with IBM, CDC, Amdahl, and Tandem. Currently, he serves as a local board member of the National Association of Business Economics and teaches graduate courses in investing at Golden Gate University. Bud, a futures investor for 25 years and a full-time investor for a decade, is also a regular lecturer for American Association of Individual Investors and a frequent contributor on Fox Business News. In addition,  he produces original analysis for Casey Research, including unique charts and research on the economy and investment markets.

Direct download: cw-301-BudConrad.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 5:52am EDT

CW 300: Maximizing our Potential with Dr. Judith Wright Bestselling Author of ‘Soft Addiction Solutions'

Today we’re celebrating our 300th episode of The Creating Wealth Show and wish to thank our loyal listeners and all of our fantastic guests who have made this show a success! 

Direct download: cw-300-JudithWright.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:29pm EDT

CW 298: America's Economic Outlook with John Mauldin Author and Publisher of ‘Thoughts From the Frontline’

On this show, Jason Hartman talks with one of his investment counselors about current events, welcomes a guest caller and also brings to our listening audience the economic outlook from renowned financial expert, John Mauldin.  Mauldin discusses “spending rearrangement”, a restructuring of our country’s spending problem and tax code, and how the election outcome influences the direction of that restructuring. The larger the government becomes, the smaller the private sector becomes – not an ideal situation for economic recovery in the U.S. Mauldin gives his insights and the possible scenarios and outcomes that could happen, depending on whether or not the deficit problem is truly solved, touching on investments, job creation, tax issues and trade deficits.

John Mauldin is also a New York Times best-selling author and a pioneering online commentator. Each week, over one million readers turn to Mauldin for his penetrating view on Wall Street, global markets and economic history. Mauldin’s weekly e-newsletter, Thoughts from the Frontline, was one of the first publications to provide investors with free, unbiased information and guidance.  Today, it is the most widely distributed investment newsletter in the world.

Mauldin is a frequent contributor to publications including The Financial Times and The Daily Reckoning, as well as a regular guest on CNBC, Yahoo Tech Ticker, and Bloomberg TV. His best-selling books include Bull’s Eye Investing, Just One Thing and Endgame, as well as his recently released update to Bull’s Eye Investing – The Little Book of Bull’s Eye Investing.

Direct download: cw-298-JohnMauldin.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 5:52pm EDT

CW 297: Overseas Income Property Investing & IRS Audit Risks with Jason Hartman and Investment Counselor Steve

Join Jason Hartman and investment counselor, Steve, as they discuss a few news topics critical to your success as a real estate investor. Jason and Steve start by discussing a recent article by Kiplinger’s that discusses the top IRS audit red flags.  

Income property investors should be cautious when claiming rental losses and the home office deduction, as these are frequent themes in IRS audits. Then another look at how 15 billion dollars in gold was recently repatriated from JP Morgan’s vaults in London.  Is this the sign of imminent economic collapse?  

As are many, this particular listener expressed concern about governments seizing rental properties in the event of extreme fiscal crisis.  Is diversifying over seas a way to hedge against this risk?  Jason lays out the reasons why the US, no matter the fiscal threat, is still the best place in the world to buy income producing real estate.

Direct download: cw-297-JasonSteve.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 9:08am EDT

CW 296: Key Takeaways & Best Practices from the ‘Meet the Masters of Real Estate Investing’ Seminar

Join Jason Hartman as he discusses some good takeaways from attendees, speakers and panel discussions at Meet The Masters of Income Property.

Here's a sampling:

• Best Practices in Property Management
• Jason Hartman: The Next 10 Commandments
• Market Profile: Atlanta, Georgia
• The Power of Analysis
• Market & Property Evaluation
• Entity Structures for Asset Protection
• Cost Effective Property Insurance Nationwide
• Market Profile: St. Robert, Missouri
• Mortgage Lender Panel - Overcoming Challenges: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
• Financing Investment Real Estate
• Getting Your Investments Organized for Success
•    Peter - Tax Strategies of Wealthy Investors
•    Reed - Market Profile: San Marcos, Texas
• The Power of Exchange: IRS 1031 Best Practices
• Mortgage & Financial Planning
• Market Profile: St. Louis Missouri
• Income Property in Your IRA & Roth Conversion

Direct download: cw-296-MTM.mp3
Category:Podcast -- posted at: 8:17am EDT